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calling all beings y'all

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a good evening a good evening a party

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people

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i am back with you as a dj

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and i want to tell you it's a show

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calling out beans you know the stuffs

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that are going to talk about now okay

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and i want to introduce

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everybody here

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to my guy

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he's a smart guy he knows all kinds of

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this stuff about ufo you can ask him and

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he knows a lot of this i'm very

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intellectual no

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so let me tell you something okay i want

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all your people ufo twitter put your

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hands together

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and i want you to welcome my guy my

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brother

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my other half

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nft anaeton yes

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give it up nathan

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a bunch of sarah senor nathan

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wow that is

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there's no way i can top that i can't

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believe that level you went to that it's

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incredible incredible but i'm gonna try

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the go

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with the biggest heart

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my brother from new york

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ufo twitter's own

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dj stan

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thank you nathan that was an amazing

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amazing run i know that if i'm having

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some laryngitis issues that you are all

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yes so that would be the end of my

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no no we can't that nathan we're and

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we're nine episodes in

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you know

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i mean that's like saying that that

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singularity mike isn't gonna grow hair

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back you don't know that

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you don't know that he could

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yeah touched by an angel his hair comes

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yeah i mean he could go with anjali come

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brad pitt in seven you never know wow so

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absolutely well no we uh we've got an

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extra guest here as well look uh there's

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celebrity in the community that uh we

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are blessed to have with us this evening

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i'm going to bring her on what just hold

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up hold

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hold up man no this this is a legend

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we're talking about the most positive

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force on ufo twitter bar none okay we

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are so excited for this women bringing

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it every day artistically making people

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laugh making people feel loved party

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people put those hands together

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for texas own

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yes like linda richmond from new york

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i'm [\h__\h] clapton barbara

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the energy of this show is uh far

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surpassing

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we've done this far

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so excited to have you with us akashi

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akashi i think you're on mute too so

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hopefully we can uh yeah you're on mute

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but but everybody when you say the word

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akashi i want you to put your hands up

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like this

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okay right nathan can we see just can

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you just do a test run

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like a bram stoker yes thank you yeah

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akashi there you go all right there we

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all the stuff pop references i'm gonna

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see i can't unmute your met your mic

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unfortunately akashi i want you to know

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that technical issues

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hey all right i got a phone call and i'm

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not a problem welcome all right i'm

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all right now

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it's enough foolishness okay you guys

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are really immature you're not like me

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because i am together mature and

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adult-like

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you're like the example yes

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that's all i think adult

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there's grant oh my god what grant why

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are you not here blurry's in the house

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what's up girlfriend and james i and

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lara people wow lara we spoke to look at

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chad no it's all good i spoke with you

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down there what's up lara welcome

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bienvenidos buzz glide what's up holmes

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check it out

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grant i can't believe your brother's

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here grant this is he should be on right

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now why are you not on grant log on what

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are you doing all right

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yoda

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we got to do some serious ufo talk guys

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so it's time to adult it up

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button it up like i only have one more

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button anyway uh button it up nathan

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smoking pipe please

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all right sherlock holmes in the house

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arthur arthur conan doyle let's get

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something nathan start off with our

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first topic you got some lists today or

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i want you to take the first one okay

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how nathan came into the ufo space so

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great from deb uh deb a study of uh ufos

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amazing things with research in this

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space uh her diligence going through all

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those records and archives i mean

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incredible uh so how did i get into this

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an interest in in the sci-fi kind of

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thing uh but uh

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six years ago just started

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hearing about little rumors here and

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there about uh tom delonge and some kind

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of crazy uh you know sort of theory that

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he had that ufos were real that he was

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talking to people and like a lot of

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folks i kind of shrugged that off not

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thinking too much about it but then

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december 2017 happened with the new york

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i just sucked me right in wanted to be a

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part of this conversation uh and really

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the twitter space just to get a sense of

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what the twitter you know vibe was with

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ufos and found so many interesting

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topic and for me that's really

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energizing i like kind of things and

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that's kind of who we are and uh i

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appreciate that that you know we're like

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one human family tackling this topic

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yeah and i want to say just to follow up

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with nathan i also was a sci-fi

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original star trek and when my parents

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series so i was also watched consumed

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everything sci-fi just like nathan been

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star wars blew me away obviously i saw

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celebrity up in this joint

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kashi chris

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experiencer i haven't seen anything but

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gullible in any way but i've always

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junke and the aliens are going to kidnap

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you that's just part of

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narrative you know it's like a family

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thing you know everybody talks about it

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whenever i talked puerto ricans started

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getting an accent i apologize it just

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comes naturally love it love it i mean

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things like that were very natural so um

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pandemic it started making me think and

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looking at things and i started looking

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at ufo twitter and bumped into um ucr

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and ufo jane and um from there it just

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i am obsessed because you don't know

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how great the puzzle how big the puzzle

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and how minute the pieces of that puzzle

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are so if anything from that from that

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perspective you don't know how wu is woo

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about before are just kind of normal now

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so um that's that and i'm

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i'm my concern enough for the future is

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this the people that don't think

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anything is out there and how they will

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do and i think that that's where we play

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a role that we can help people kind of

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you know kind of bridge the gap between

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people who think that there's nothing

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been looking into it and we're more

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open-minded so anyway so that's why i'm

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here and because you asked me dj

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hello

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we love you good to have you with us

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what is it inside you that makes you

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i mean i i come in with with pure heart

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and intention that's all i can say and

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i'm here to help

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and i love

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you know when when you make somebody

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laugh

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that makes my day just as much

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in in laughter to me it's like the

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greatest therapy of them all you know

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it's like you could have a really crappy

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day and i could look down and look at

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you know flares twitter and

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just laugh

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and i'm not gonna curse because i'm

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trying to be cool but and let my butt

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off and it just makes everything go away

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and it's like if you can connect with

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somebody or

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if if i can reach out to a politician

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and maybe maybe have somebody listen

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you know one person listen if we don't

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try we're never going to get anywhere

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and we can only time little bits and

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pieces so i'm also going to be

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recruiting some people to the cause oh

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excellent yeah i've got some um it i

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came from kind of politics which i don't

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get into but um my group of activists

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are dying for

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or chomping at the bit for

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some activism so i'm like hmm

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maybe i'll it's might recruit them so

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anyway

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there are many people uh in this space

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that will

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ascribe a certain importance to you know

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and i'll tell you that

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i can't think of many

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uh and even i can include myself nathan

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but i can't think of many that are as

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important as you for that very reason i

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i realized you diverged away from the

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positivity that was pretty slick

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but uh but yeah it's

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quite real

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that's okay you know

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we'll celebrate you

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no

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i i just want to be real and nice and

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kind and and promote an environment

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where we don't cancel each other out

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because i've seen it be so bad in other

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areas so it's just you know i try to

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promote that so that is something i try

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to promote because i just think it's

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healthy

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we all listen to each other you know you

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share our vision you share our vision of

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what nathan and i have to bring and

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maybe we'll get into that later nathan

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but i want to get into the ufo talk now

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and we can circle back to how we came

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together but i think people are going to

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want to hear some meat and potatoes

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right now so so let's get into it um

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nathan did you have something that or

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akashi did you want to uh ask your

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question first or would you like to wait

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i think i want to wait because i want to

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hear a little bit more about your back

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story and then my my question kind of

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comes at the end

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okay okay i know

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nathan my brother what do you got man

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what's the first thing you that on that

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list that really jumped off the page at

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you because there were some great

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questions from lucy bell and deb and

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rodney

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yes uh you know there's been a lot of

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we're in a bit of a

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some might say we've been in a bit of a

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lull in terms of a real sort of tangible

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information that has come out uh in in

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ufo twitter land and as you guys know

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when we hit these lulls we kind of like

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there's a disturbance in the force and

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the community starts kind of uh

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getting into a lot of arguments you know

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we kind of

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you know very simplistic stances

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and you know dj i'd love to get your

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thoughts on

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you know how do you

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kind of see

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the diversity of viewpoints

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in the community and what is your kind

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of philosophy on like maintaining some

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diversity but

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uh you know also kind of keeping the

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peace and and you know how do you

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approach that

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i think uh i like to use the black white

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gray metaphor and you guys have heard me

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use it on spaces

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and

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there are so many uh interesting

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opinions and people that have different

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types of intelligence because there

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isn't one type like nathan and i don't

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have the exact same type of intelligence

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um and akashi and many

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you know

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literally hundreds of people in our

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community so what i try to look at is

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that we can have go in all these diverse

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directions and entertain things but we

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also want to try to see if we can

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look at some some some facts and some

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events that have occurred like what you

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know you saw what dan

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warren posted today about uh several

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people getting behind uh the gillibrand

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resolution in the senate not the least

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of which is marco rubio uh lindsey

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graham

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uh roy blunt

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uh and um forgive me if i don't remember

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all the the co-sponsors of that

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legislation

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but um

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if we can look at a set of facts and

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entertain the possibility of how we got

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here and perhaps leave our our

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prejudices aside and say okay

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um i can

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i can feel this

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about this uh set of circumstances that

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happened but i can also look and say you

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know what that is a day fat that is a

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fact of of what happened and what what

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led up to that and i may not be

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comfortable with all the tangents that

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surround that but we can agree that it

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happened and what may have been the

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driver behind that so i like to say life

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is in the gray if we say one side is

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black and one side is white

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then it's all this or it's all that

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really it's the gray that we're looking

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for whether it be someone in our

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community that's controversial to some

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not controversial to all perhaps there's

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just a little bit of gray there but we

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can also extract

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a significant amount of facts and

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meaning from what that person may have

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contributed yeah and interesting that

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you use the word gray in a ufo community

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uh because it is

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perfect metaphor yeah it's a very

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prevalent uh sort of image that we have

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uh going around with with gray's

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you know it makes me think a lot about

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our show and i know you kind of

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mentioned that we would touch on it

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later and i think you know this makes me

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want to touch on it now you know we

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some things just kind of happened they

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fell into place and you and i met really

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kind of by accident uh through a meet

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mutual friend shout out to andy from

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that andy you know huge huge podcast

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there and a great guy and he put us

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together not knowing that we'd really

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you know kind of hit it off and want to

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do this thing together and then you we

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kind of brainstormed on some ideas on

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what to call the show

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and uh we came up with calling all

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beings you had the great idea of using

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the the taxicab image as an icon and and

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that's honestly it's a great image

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because anyone who's ever

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ridden in a cab you know we've all had

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like great cab rides we've all had those

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cab rides that are a little bit crazy uh

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but the thing about riding in a cab or

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an uber or a lift or whatever at least

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for me it's a chance for me to have a

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conversation with somebody that i'm only

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gonna know

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for 15

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20 minutes 30 minutes and and most often

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when i'm asking questions like they they

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just want to talk they want to tell me

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about their life where they've been

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and i'm not there to judge i'm just

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really there to listen and get to know

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this person for this ride

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and that's what we're all on together

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you know we're all on a ride together

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and

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i just want to get get to know folks

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want to know where they're from what

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they're interested in what drives them

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and for me the the the truth you know

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coming to your point dj that the truth

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is really sort of the mixture of all of

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these

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different voices to kind of get to that

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truth

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uh because it's not you know no one's no

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one really knows what what is going on

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here anyone that has a lot of certainty

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i think you have to you know be pretty

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skeptical of that person the government

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doesn't know what's going on here yeah

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nobody knows

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yeah

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no i i i agree with your uh with your

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point there nathan

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and um

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it is a symmetry of people coming

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together i think it's very painful for

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nathan and i

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when we see

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a uh like a tim mcmillan arguing with

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the joe mergia or we see uh john um

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forgive me the the researcher gentlemen

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yeah john greenwald uh arguing with with

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with somebody else or stephen

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greenstreet and and and uh and uh ross

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coltart uh i think you know we find that

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painful because we see value in what

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every one of them brings and says

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in the community and we see no value in

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them picking at one another so we we

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kind of wish that people would try to

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see if they can extract some value and

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then you know and then step away from

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something that maybe they do find

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slightly objectionable which is just

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human nature after all yeah yeah and to

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provide a platform for us to really have

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a conversation i think that twitter is

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great as it is for

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really kind of just getting there seeing

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lots of different thoughts at once and

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getting little news bites that come

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through it's not great for having a

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long-form discussion an argument of any

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kind it's it really

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brings out the worst in people when it

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kind of goes in that direction so to

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have folks on our show who may have

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differing opinions and we can have a

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chance to chat it out and see the other

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person and kind of come to a maybe an

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agreed to disagree but in a civil way

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that's what i want to be able to do

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rather than you know shut people down

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and say well you're not you're not you

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don't meet my purity test for this

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community and therefore you're not going

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to be here any longer

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yeah so uh just to you know i think

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nathan

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wants to contextualize a little bit more

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about us uh so really the first time i

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heard him you know i said this on

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podcast recently is that it was almost

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like andy and i were just like looking

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at each other like man listen this guy

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talked can you believe this i mean he's

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amazing i was like i was immediately i

556
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want to dm you know i told him please dm

557
00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:00,640
me after the show

558
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:03,039
and i want to talk to him and

559
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:05,200
not knowing that he was going to be my

560
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:06,960
partner yet we were just going to have a

561
00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:08,080
dialogue

562
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:09,120
and then

563
00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:10,880
you know the guy's amazing i mean let's

564
00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:13,520
face it everybody knows that um

565
00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:16,480
we both agree on when you come on this

566
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:19,120
this program we want you to feel more

567
00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:21,120
loved than you thought you could feel

568
00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:23,600
coming on a show uh that that you know

569
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:25,120
you're welcome here

570
00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:28,000
you're loved here and and that's our

571
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:29,840
goal is to make you feel really super

572
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:31,919
comfortable and you guys saw when we had

573
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:33,840
rick on you know rick is a older

574
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:35,440
gentleman he's been through every kind

575
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:37,120
of tough interviewer

576
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:40,559
nathan and i spent hours uh apart and in

577
00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:42,880
at least an hour together studying up

578
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:44,960
for that of how we would approach it

579
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:46,880
and we really wanted to feel a kinship

580
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:49,760
with rick so uh so we did that you know

581
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:52,000
we weren't going to try to you know see

582
00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:54,400
if we could be the really cool

583
00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:56,799
you know interviewer morally safer mike

584
00:22:01,590 --> 00:21:59,120
wallace 60 minutes guy because that's

585
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:01,600
going to get you nowhere with a trained

586
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:04,880
uh uh interrogator and so you know

587
00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:07,360
that's just an example we want everybody

588
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,159
to come here and feel loved so we

589
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:12,559
felt philosophically we agree on all

590
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:14,720
those things about how to how to treat

591
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:16,720
other humans even if our approach to it

592
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:18,880
is slightly different i obviously take

593
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:21,600
the meathead humor approach

594
00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:24,000
nathan takes a serious approach but he

595
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:26,720
loves people the same way he

596
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:29,600
speaks glowingly of all of you when

597
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:32,400
we're on private uh conversation the

598
00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:34,480
other thing is that text is very

599
00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:36,159
impersonal so when you hear anjali talk

600
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:38,480
about the degradation of communication

601
00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:40,480
according to the beings that she's

602
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:42,880
interacting with of a higher density

603
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:46,480
i think in my mind that that refers to

604
00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:49,280
now we want to text people i don't have

605
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:51,760
time to call you i don't want to talk to

606
00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:52,880
you i want to

607
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:55,039
get like 20 characters out

608
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:58,000
and peace i'll talk to you later to me

609
00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:59,200
this is the highest form of

610
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:01,440
communication that we can have other

611
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,520
than being in person when i get to look

612
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:05,360
in your eyes i get to feel the emotion

613
00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:07,679
in your voice get your inferences your

614
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:10,960
metaphors uh that that are lost

615
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:14,880
uh in in digitization so um that's

616
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:16,559
that's what we hope to bring is to be

617
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:18,159
able to interact and everybody knows

618
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:19,679
that because there's probably more

619
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:21,520
people on ufo twitter that have my phone

620
00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:23,600
number then you would believe and i

621
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:25,760
don't care i i've had people call me

622
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:27,440
from all over and i'm happy to speak

623
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:29,120
with them yeah

624
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:30,000
love it

625
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:32,640
i mean you've been more than welcoming

626
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:35,120
you guys have been just i mean

627
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:37,200
i have felt so much love from you guys

628
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:38,880
so if that was your mission the mission

629
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:40,000
accomplished

630
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:42,559
because that's definitely something that

631
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:44,720
that comes across with your interactions

632
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:46,799
with you know me and the way that i see

633
00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:48,640
you guys treat other people and i mean

634
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:50,480
that's really what it's all about

635
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,080
most of the arguments when you really

636
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,480
scrub through it we're kind of splitting

637
00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:56,640
hairs because we're still all on the

638
00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,520
same side we think there's something

639
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:01,440
it's like that's the unity that's the

640
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:05,919
bond you know we we all are on the side

641
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:08,320
that believes in something that others

642
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:09,919
might not even care you know might not

643
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:11,840
believe in or care about you know

644
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:12,960
honestly

645
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:14,000
so

646
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,640
that's what you were doing then then

647
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:20,559
bravo because you did it

648
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:22,080
thank you ma'am and and i just want to

649
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:23,520
say one thing

650
00:24:26,750 --> 00:24:24,880
i think you just pointed this out

651
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:26,760
perfectly there might be

652
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:29,279
175 million people in this country that

653
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:30,640
don't believe

654
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:32,480
that there is a different intelligence

655
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:34,320
that's interacting with us

656
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:36,400
but of the rest of

657
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:37,120
the

658
00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:48,960
you're a nutcase like get out of my face

659
00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:49,840
i mean

660
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:51,919
they could go to you know golf courses

661
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:53,120
and people say

662
00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:54,960
you know what i'll i'm going to tee up

663
00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:57,360
over there so yeah they should celebrate

664
00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:59,760
that they can agree on those basic facts

665
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,600
and they can have that conversation and

666
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:03,520
not feel like oh they're going to go

667
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:06,320
laugh at the hippie you know you know

668
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:08,559
it's what level of hippie

669
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,240
because what level of woo is well we

670
00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:12,559
don't none of us know that so that's

671
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:18,390
luis and i should agree on what's better

672
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:20,159
a you know your traditional cuban

673
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:23,520
sandwich or media noche i mean i we

674
00:25:30,670 --> 00:25:24,960
should be able to talk about this come

675
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:40,950
[Laughter]

676
00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:43,430
so let's listen all right let's get with

677
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:44,880
some questions man let's go with some

678
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:47,279
ufos akashi tighten it up

679
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,240
tighten your shoes up oh my question my

680
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,480
questions oh you can do yours okay all

681
00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:54,559
right oh did you ask me a question ask

682
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:57,440
you a question

683
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,400
so i'm gonna ask you guys a question so

684
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:02,400
you know in in looking at you guys you

685
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:05,440
guys are obviously very aligned but

686
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:06,400
what

687
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:10,080
if you had to kind of identify one thing

688
00:26:17,669 --> 00:26:13,440
that you're most misaligned on like

689
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:18,630
so

690
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:20,159
nathan i'm gonna give you i was i

691
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:21,600
thought we were gonna have like a timer

692
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:34,149
i'm just kidding grant no time

693
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:36,159
so nathan so i'll start with you so what

694
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:38,240
is you know when when you guys talk it's

695
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:40,320
like what what's the one thing that

696
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:44,230
yeah sure

697
00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:47,039
well we as dj mentioned we

698
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,960
have i think we share a similar spirit

699
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:50,720
you know so even if we didn't do a

700
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,880
disagreement we

701
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:54,960
we don't let that go very long before we

702
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:56,320
both start kind of like you know we need

703
00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:57,520
to come we need to kind of come back

704
00:27:02,870 --> 00:26:59,679
together on the on the big things

705
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:02,880
but i will say that um

706
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:04,880
you know it's

707
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:06,320
i'm trying the right way to frame this

708
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:08,320
dj the one topic that we've both kind of

709
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:11,200
gotten into a disagreement on and i

710
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:12,720
can't think of really any others to be

711
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,440
honest but it's the tic tac and kind of

712
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:17,360
you know entertaining different theories

713
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:18,559
and and i don't think we're going to

714
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:21,120
spend a lot of time on it on this chat

715
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:22,960
because we could literally spend two

716
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:29,190
but uh you know dj brings a ton of

717
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:31,600
knowledge when it comes to

718
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:34,720
flight and uh and and you know our our

719
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:36,880
engineering and the level to where we

720
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,600
what we have achieved with flight um

721
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:41,520
he's got some great anecdotes about that

722
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:42,480
as well

723
00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,880
and uh you know he looks at the tic tac

724
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:46,559
uh you know i think from that

725
00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:48,399
perspective and it's it's the it really

726
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:50,559
is the right perspective to look at that

727
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:52,960
object in terms of this does not seem

728
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:55,120
like something that we

729
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:56,559
as humans

730
00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:58,799
you know have engineered that we could

731
00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:00,799
even you know pilot whether we would

732
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,200
pilot it like our someone inside the

733
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:05,279
object or even remotely very challenging

734
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:07,440
for us to be able to do that because

735
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:08,960
of the high level of performance and

736
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:11,360
many other reasons why

737
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:13,600
um and so he he approaches it from that

738
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:17,919
lens and and for myself uh i i tend to

739
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,000
entertain a lot of speculation because

740
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:22,000
in part because i guess i

741
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:23,520
i'm already talking about aliens to

742
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:25,360
begin with so i sort of say like well

743
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:27,760
what else is anything else is possible

744
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:28,720
and one of the things i really

745
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:30,880
appreciate about dj is that he kind of

746
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:32,159
uh

747
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:34,399
he he kind of reels me back in sometimes

748
00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:36,799
from entertaining too many different

749
00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:38,480
theories you know because you really can

750
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:40,000
i think this is a good lesson for all of

751
00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:40,960
us you know

752
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:42,799
when you've kind of opened one box you

753
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:44,080
can be like well there's there's a

754
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:45,919
million boxes i can open any theory is

755
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,159
possible what about this what about that

756
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:50,159
and i think you know it's helpful to

757
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,039
kind of revisit your biases and and kind

758
00:28:56,630 --> 00:28:55,039
of say look maybe it's maybe i don't

759
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:56,640
need to entertain every single theory

760
00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:58,559
that is plausible man i'll narrow this

761
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:00,080
down a little bit more

762
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,399
and uh and say you know right now based

763
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:04,399
on what i know now

764
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:05,600
i don't think

765
00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:08,000
that this is a theory worth chasing i

766
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:10,080
think that that's probably the the best

767
00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:11,679
the best way i can put it without us you

768
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:14,399
know like really getting into it no yeah

769
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:15,760
and i'm not trying to start something

770
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:18,240
i'm just curious what you guys what you

771
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:20,640
know what theories you guys are not you

772
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:21,440
know

773
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:22,799
nathan uh

774
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:25,600
he contextualized my position basically

775
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,840
perfectly you know the only thing i

776
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:29,760
would add to it as i say i try to take

777
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:31,360
what our knowns are

778
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,000
and i try to build out from there and

779
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:36,320
look very realistically

780
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:38,080
based on that because i know how

781
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,960
technology that ends up first of all i

782
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:42,880
know what we're buying right now as a

783
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:44,320
military i know what we're spending

784
00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:47,200
money on i know what's in test i know

785
00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:49,039
what's not in test

786
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,279
i um and what's in procurement all these

787
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:53,279
sorts of things so i kind of will extend

788
00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:55,760
out from there and see okay that

789
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,720
but and then i'll say okay so from where

790
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:00,480
we've come from the beginning of flight

791
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:03,760
until now this is and what i'm seeing

792
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:05,520
and based on how long it takes to go

793
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,840
from the military to civil i'll say okay

794
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:09,440
this is probably possible and then i'll

795
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:10,960
look at something like that and just be

796
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:13,440
like there's so many aspects of it that

797
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:15,520
you would have to understand

798
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:17,360
how we fly

799
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,159
and when i say the word fly i mean

800
00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:22,480
all that goes into that navigation

801
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:24,320
traffic avoidance

802
00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:26,000
um

803
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,799
how we start stop turn you know the

804
00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:30,240
basics that you all know and that's

805
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:32,480
where i'll come to that so i'll try to

806
00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:34,320
find a position where i haven't known

807
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:36,159
i'll try to build out from there and

808
00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:37,600
then beyond that like when we start

809
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:39,520
talking about the phenomenon

810
00:30:43,789 --> 00:30:42,000
geez i'm open to everything i mean i

811
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:43,799
start talking nathan about

812
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:45,840
ultra-terrestrial and we start talking

813
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:48,320
about uh historical things like that

814
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:51,520
that chris is very passionate about that

815
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,679
uh archaeologically speaking there may

816
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:55,440
be some significant things that are

817
00:31:00,389 --> 00:30:57,840
under the earth right now that would

818
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:00,399
look like it's uh several thousand years

819
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:03,120
in our future today but may have

820
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:05,039
been buried there several thousand years

821
00:31:10,269 --> 00:31:07,440
ago and then we start you know nathan

822
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:10,279
and i will talk about uh you know uh

823
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:13,360
extraterrestrial uh and interdimensional

824
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:16,000
and i'm i'm just so open and interested

825
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:18,320
in all those things and all the time you

826
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:20,960
have your james you know ian doley's uh

827
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:23,600
with his his meta perspective and uh

828
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:25,039
folks like dan

829
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:27,279
and folks like nathan and folks like

830
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:30,480
mike from the singularity lab and folks

831
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:32,640
like rather be squidding you know that

832
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:35,679
have all these really uh uh interesting

833
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:38,720
ideas that provoke me to think

834
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:40,720
uh in ways that i hadn't thought of so

835
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:43,760
that's that's the beauty of it

836
00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:45,600
that's why this works

837
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:47,519
the reason why i ask about the things

838
00:31:52,149 --> 00:31:49,360
that you don't agree on is because it

839
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,159
actually brings up the best in

840
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:54,320
how you complement each other

841
00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:56,080
that's awesome yeah he's going to be

842
00:32:01,269 --> 00:31:58,799
nathan's going to be a really big person

843
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:01,279
in this space i i think there's

844
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:03,360
some people that know him now i think

845
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,720
there are some people that are becoming

846
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:07,279
aware of him but a lot more people exo

847
00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:09,039
academia i forgot to mention him sorry

848
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:12,080
exo love you um but yeah there's a lot

849
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:14,240
of people that are going to become aware

850
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:15,760
of nathan

851
00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:18,559
yeah well you know we

852
00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:20,960
to me like uh this is a good topic to

853
00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:23,360
discuss you know so the somebody

854
00:32:27,269 --> 00:32:26,159
mentioned today reminded us about how

855
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:27,279
uh

856
00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:33,120
yeah on his chat with with mike um with

857
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:35,120
him at a loony yeah

858
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:36,960
but he mentioned that um

859
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:38,480
you know if this topic kind of does

860
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,200
break more to the mainstream and becomes

861
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:43,440
igno officially acknowledged

862
00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:44,480
uh

863
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:48,399
hasn't that thus far you know we're

864
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:50,080
going to have a lot of folks that are

865
00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:52,000
going to flood into this space that that

866
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:53,840
are going to want to study it and and

867
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:55,120
treat it with a lot of serious the

868
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:56,480
seriousness that we've all actually

869
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,399
wanted it to be treated with for a long

870
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:00,399
time you know we're hoping that we get a

871
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,120
lot of the best minds working on this

872
00:33:08,149 --> 00:33:05,440
issue and helping us understand what it

873
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:08,159
is and you know kurt's point i think was

874
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:10,000
that uh you know when that day comes

875
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:12,399
that the folks in in this little

876
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:15,440
microcosm the ufo twitter folks you know

877
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:17,360
we're not gonna get any uh uh you know

878
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:19,519
sort of applause we're not gonna get any

879
00:33:23,909 --> 00:33:21,600
you know gold stars for the work that we

880
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:23,919
did to try to push this topic forward

881
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:25,120
you know we're going to have to sort of

882
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:26,880
be ready or comfortable with the fact

883
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:29,760
that that we may have to step step aside

884
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,320
and and honestly i'm i'm okay with that

885
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,159
but i do want to get your thoughts dj i

886
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:36,080
mean if that day comes and and that does

887
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:38,000
happen and you know what where do you

888
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:40,480
see the community uh going

889
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:42,640
uh if it becomes just the thing that

890
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:44,559
everybody is now like this is just a

891
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:45,840
fact of life and the world is

892
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:47,760
acknowledged this is real do you see

893
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:49,360
this community kind of dissolving or do

894
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:51,519
you see it growing what kind of you see

895
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:52,960
for it in the future

896
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:55,120
for two reasons i don't see it

897
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:57,840
dissolving uh in fact it may grow and

898
00:34:03,509 --> 00:33:59,919
the reason i believe that if i look at

899
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:03,519
the mma community when mma and the ufc

900
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,000
got really popular when uh there were

901
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:08,639
people who were be were ogs so you know

902
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:10,879
for in our space you could look at

903
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:13,359
people like james like linda molten howe

904
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:16,079
like grant cameron like

905
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:17,599
martin willis

906
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:20,000
people that have been around for not you

907
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:22,639
know like two years or a year but

908
00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:23,760
decades

909
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:25,520
uh and

910
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:27,119
and so

911
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:28,480
then you you know you could look at all

912
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:31,679
the guys now like andy and and and ucr

913
00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:33,520
and all these people you know amy all

914
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:35,119
these people that are building up

915
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:38,000
audiences and that trust them and i

916
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:40,960
don't think that'll go away if

917
00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:42,399
um

918
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:46,879
news person x from nbc or abc or cbs or

919
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:49,679
whatever come into the space uh i i

920
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:51,760
don't think because the credibility the

921
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:54,240
fact that they're having to cover a

922
00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:57,760
myriad of topics uh that uh the entire

923
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:01,280
spectrum of news um i i don't think that

924
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:03,839
that our um

925
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:06,240
i i don't like to say the word followers

926
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:08,720
i like to say friends so i would like to

927
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,960
say that our friends from ufo twitter

928
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:13,040
that we're engaging with every day are

929
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:15,359
still going to be there because

930
00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:17,119
they know that we're more engaged on the

931
00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:19,359
topic than people that are covering all

932
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:20,720
of life

933
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:22,800
yeah yeah so yeah

934
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:24,400
i hope you're right i mean i do think

935
00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:26,079
that you know those of us who brought a

936
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:27,440
passion to this want to continue to be

937
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:29,760
part of that conversation in some way uh

938
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:32,400
and you know and even if we're not um

939
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,079
you know i do think about the role that

940
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,400
ufo twitter plays in

941
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:38,480
the the topic generally i mean i think i

942
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:39,359
i

943
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:40,960
know for a fact there are lots of folks

944
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:43,440
that are maybe not actively tweeting but

945
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:45,440
they're observing the content that is

946
00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:48,079
produced by this community uh that is

947
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:50,240
trying to draw attention to this topic

948
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:52,880
and so i do see us as a kind of a

949
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:54,640
like an energy drink if you will for

950
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:56,960
this topic for those that are out there

951
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:59,280
kind of doing work that we may not be

952
00:36:02,710 --> 00:36:00,720
seeing you know there may be a lot of

953
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:02,720
folks i mean i think think of um you

954
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:05,680
know elizondo and sean cahill and jake

955
00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:07,359
mann and the guys from skyford i mean

956
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:08,960
they're out there you know doing their

957
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:10,720
thing to try to bring awareness to this

958
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:13,920
topic with a lot of players who who can

959
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:15,599
really move it forward but we don't we

960
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:17,599
don't see what they're doing day to day

961
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:19,920
you know we're privy to very little

962
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,000
about what those guys are actually up to

963
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:24,400
but i have a feeling that they do

964
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:26,800
kind of draw from this community a sense

965
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:29,680
of energy uh and enthusiasm and that

966
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:31,359
does help kind of move them forward at

967
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:33,520
least that's what i'm hearing them say

968
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:36,320
and that does give me a sense of pride

969
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:38,560
in kind of what we do and it also helps

970
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:40,560
me focus on what it is that we're trying

971
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,320
to achieve you know so

972
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:44,160
uh getting distracted by our

973
00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:47,119
disagreements is not actually helpful uh

974
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,040
in moving this forward in any way shape

975
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:51,200
or form but you know we can we can have

976
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:53,280
disagreements but we shouldn't you know

977
00:36:57,910 --> 00:36:55,200
kind of uh belittle people in that

978
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:57,920
process tear down yeah

979
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:00,079
i agree uh yeah they

980
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:02,400
frankly you know like chris they can

981
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:04,560
reach people that we can't reach uh they

982
00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:05,440
can

983
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:07,359
reach into congress you know just look

984
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:09,440
at the people you mentioned

985
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:12,079
uh they can reach uh into congress they

986
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:14,800
can uh reach over to foreign countries

987
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,280
and be respected i mean if i if one of

988
00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:19,839
us from ufo twitter were to try to

989
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:21,839
make a trip to the uk or make a trip to

990
00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:23,119
san marino nobody's going to want to

991
00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:24,320
meet with me because they don't know who

992
00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:26,079
i am

993
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:29,599
and when somebody of a certain uh

994
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:31,839
whether you like their

995
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:34,160
how they got their status or not

996
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:37,599
it's a fact that people were gonna sit

997
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:38,960
down at a table and talk with them the

998
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:41,839
italian government uh the san marino's

999
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:44,400
uh the the uk somebody from the uk that

1000
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:46,640
sat down with significant but i got a

1001
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:48,560
question for y'all

1002
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:52,640
it's about your boy akashi avi loeb and

1003
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,960
the galileo project

1004
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:56,000
so

1005
00:38:02,150 --> 00:37:59,839
you and i'd like to pose this question

1006
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:02,160
to you when you're done i'd like to have

1007
00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:05,119
nathan attack this question as well but

1008
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,079
um

1009
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:08,880
first of all i love professor loeb he's

1010
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:11,280
given us a kind of like in the same way

1011
00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:14,160
that uh people like lou and chris about

1012
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:17,440
credibility to our topic amongst a wider

1013
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:20,160
audience so has aviloah because in in

1014
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,400
this in the academic space

1015
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:24,720
he's this big i mean a harvard professor

1016
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,240
it's hard to get you know let's see i'm

1017
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:28,560
in harvard or cambridge right

1018
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,040
so anyway oxford um so what do you think

1019
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:34,960
do you expect

1020
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:37,520
of those guys like so if i would say you

1021
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,440
know galileo project they're going to

1022
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:41,359
produce x

1023
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:43,280
uh in terms of after they get their

1024
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:45,760
equipment fielded what do you think that

1025
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:48,480
will be the result of what they're able

1026
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:50,240
to gather and collect once they get

1027
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:52,560
their sensors deployed

1028
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:54,960
and then as far as what you know results

1029
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:58,480
versus what we'll see out of them

1030
00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:00,880
well no you know i wasn't even thinking

1031
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:02,400
about that but

1032
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:04,160
results that they'll get what do you

1033
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:06,560
think they will discover or find if you

1034
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:08,720
had to look into the imagination of your

1035
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:09,920
mind

1036
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:12,960
i mean i i think he's gonna get to at

1037
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,079
least understanding or or

1038
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:18,480
not sure that really getting that that

1039
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:20,800
evidentiary proof that everybody you

1040
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:21,760
know

1041
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:23,040
you can put a picture in front of

1042
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:24,560
anybody and they're gonna find a way to

1043
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:27,200
dispute it even if it's absolutely 100

1044
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:29,760
true so i think he's going to come out

1045
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:34,550
it'll be interesting what he comes out

1046
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:36,480
with on the interdimensional

1047
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:38,000
because i think that's you know

1048
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:40,000
definitely the focus you know some of

1049
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:42,000
the focus that they're you know the the

1050
00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:45,119
the government is taking and isn't his

1051
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:47,839
place to put people as part of this

1052
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:50,560
central office that are represented from

1053
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,240
galileo projects so that's where i'm

1054
00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:54,000
like trying to figure out from

1055
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:56,560
government to galileo projects are going

1056
00:40:00,390 --> 00:39:58,960
to impact what they were able to deliver

1057
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:00,400
to us

1058
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:01,920
okay that's interesting because i didn't

1059
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:04,319
even know that they were going to uh get

1060
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:06,720
a member of the galileo team on to like

1061
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,240
the uap tf or whatever the the new arm

1062
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:12,480
of the dod is going to be and we need to

1063
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:14,319
look at the chat on that one but i

1064
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:15,760
looked into that and i thought that

1065
00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:17,200
that's what i saw that there was like

1066
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:19,119
three people when you actually look at

1067
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:21,760
the disclaimer and all the you know um

1068
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:23,920
the details on it that three people are

1069
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:24,880
from

1070
00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:27,599
um avilo and he gets to pick whatever

1071
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,200
those three people are

1072
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:31,280
so that's where it's like now i'm

1073
00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:33,359
thinking it you know galileo project's

1074
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:35,839
supposed to be looking outward but we

1075
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:36,960
know that

1076
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:39,520
the government is always also looking

1077
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:42,319
inward so my answer to that would have

1078
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:44,560
been different before this amendment

1079
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:50,630
reference to something that we would

1080
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,240
never even think that would be

1081
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:54,720
referenced by the government came out so

1082
00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:56,240
that i think that changes the game

1083
00:41:01,589 --> 00:41:00,000
especially if abi is part of

1084
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:01,599
that team

1085
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:03,920
and if you know is louis on the part of

1086
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:05,760
the team i don't know i'm just it would

1087
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:07,520
be really interesting to see who's you

1088
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,880
know who's being targeted for those

1089
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:10,160
positions

1090
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:13,680
yeah hashtag akashi

1091
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:15,520
yeah not me

1092
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:18,240
nathan yeah so uh

1093
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:19,920
i know that i muddied the waters on that

1094
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:21,760
but i'm sorry because i'm like whoa i'll

1095
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:23,520
be look cool that's one question i

1096
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:25,280
didn't expect that i'm gonna get i'm

1097
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,200
good with that i love avi

1098
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,520
i thought it was great because uh and

1099
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:31,119
you you kind of brought the the topic

1100
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:33,520
together to to the bill so that the the

1101
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:35,040
bill the rebranded bill the gillibrand

1102
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:37,359
bill the essay 4593

1103
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:40,640
uh if you read the text of who's or kind

1104
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:42,079
of who's going to be invited to be a

1105
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:44,960
part of this uh team i mean it's pretty

1106
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:47,440
broad so you know you've got the galileo

1107
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:50,240
folks you've got uh scu folks i mean the

1108
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:52,640
scientific coalition for uap studies i

1109
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:53,839
mean that's

1110
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:55,359
it you know

1111
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:57,359
this is the kind of team that you would

1112
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:00,480
want to be working together to review

1113
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:03,920
this information to provide it with a

1114
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:06,319
level of credibility and and i want to

1115
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:09,200
use that word carefully because i think

1116
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,440
the credibility could cut

1117
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,440
one of two ways right they could go

1118
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:15,200
through this effort and looks like i've

1119
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,400
lost some

1120
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:18,720
uh some some lighting here just

1121
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:20,319
apologize for that but um they could go

1122
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:22,240
through this effort

1123
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:23,520
and

1124
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,880
this this is the uaps are real they're

1125
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:30,800
you know they are something outside of

1126
00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:32,079
the earth they're extraterrestrial

1127
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,839
whatever or they could say you know what

1128
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:35,440
we've actually looked at this and all

1129
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:36,880
these intelligent people looked at and

1130
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,880
we've realized it's uh you know it

1131
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,240
really is some sort of atmospheric

1132
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:42,160
phenomena or it really is uh an

1133
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:44,000
adversarial technology or really you

1134
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:46,000
know but the all of these people who are

1135
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:47,680
collectively kind of looking at this

1136
00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:49,520
together like these are the folks that

1137
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:51,520
we would want to have

1138
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,920
to to lend their seal of approval one

1139
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:55,680
way or the other on this now i i tend to

1140
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,520
believe it's going to fall you know one

1141
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,440
way or not the other

1142
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:01,520
and but i'm so glad to see the list of

1143
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:03,359
these professionals that are included in

1144
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:05,359
this initiative because it gives me hope

1145
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,960
that it's not just

1146
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:08,640
you know the traditional

1147
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:10,079
government folks that were that we've

1148
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,319
been seeing for so long

1149
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:14,000
yeah and i believe

1150
00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:16,880
uh obvi labor doctor has been so clear

1151
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,280
on his intentions that he wants to share

1152
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:21,280
whatever information he gets and that

1153
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,440
he's you know but you know he was

1154
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,520
limited in the you know the funding it

1155
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:27,599
seems like for the tech that he needs no

1156
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:29,280
doubt come on that's like we're gonna

1157
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:31,839
have to do a gofundme for this this is

1158
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:34,480
ridiculous but now with

1159
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:35,920
with everything else that's going on

1160
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:37,280
that's what i'm saying that it's kind of

1161
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,240
evolving into into this you know so much

1162
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,480
bigger thing and moving every single day

1163
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:44,560
it's crazy it's like keeping up with

1164
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:46,000
this is insane

1165
00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:48,000
like being on that stage saying he needs

1166
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:49,760
money and jeff bezos is sitting in the

1167
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:52,480
front row of the of the national yeah

1168
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:55,280
yo jeff man yo

1169
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:57,599
take the credit card out

1170
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:59,359
but as far as the team i don't know how

1171
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,960
you guys feel about this but when you

1172
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:02,640
think about it they're gonna need

1173
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,880
somebody to go and get sandwiches so

1174
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:06,560
when you think about that you start

1175
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:08,640
thinking about me you're thinking about

1176
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,839
point break

1177
00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:11,599
and you're thinking about gary busey

1178
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:13,839
going hey utah

1179
00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:16,560
get me two of those meatball sandwiches

1180
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:19,680
all right angelo hey utah

1181
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:21,520
get me two

1182
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:25,520
so i could be i could be johnny utah

1183
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:28,079
for for this team and nathan do you how

1184
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:30,319
do you feel that i would perform just in

1185
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,480
terms of like getting lunch and stuff

1186
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:34,160
i think you'd be terrific at it yeah

1187
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:35,280
thank you man

1188
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:36,880
and would you be willing to write a

1189
00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:38,960
recommendation letter you and akashi

1190
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:41,520
anytime okay all right so avi if you're

1191
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:43,680
listening no you can expect a letter

1192
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:46,240
from nathan's office and one from my

1193
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:49,359
girl from texas takashi chris and i

1194
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:51,839
would do an excellent job uh i'm gonna

1195
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:53,680
respect you know whether somebody's like

1196
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:56,319
gluten-free whether they're vegan

1197
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:58,319
you know if if pork is not your thing

1198
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:59,839
we're both jewish you know even though

1199
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:01,760
i'm italian so i'll take care of you

1200
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:03,200
anyway you're willing to go to multiple

1201
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:08,790
yeah i'll bring the cooler and or the

1202
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:10,640
hot thing you know so we'll we'll take

1203
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,640
care of it start the petition right away

1204
00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:14,480
for you perfect

1205
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:18,240
i'm going to be off my first

1206
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:20,000
nft nathan's gonna be off while we

1207
00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:24,240
entertain some questions deb and lucy um

1208
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:26,079
on the chat this weekend you weren't

1209
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:29,280
there chris but they had a couple of uh

1210
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,400
questions

1211
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:32,400
um i want you i want

1212
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:34,480
i want to say this please don't let me

1213
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:36,640
forget to get nathan's take on stephen

1214
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,880
green street because it's brilliant

1215
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:40,079
um

1216
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:41,520
that said deb

1217
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:43,359
okay i want the audience to know this

1218
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:44,560
right now

1219
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:47,040
i was not going to bring up any topic

1220
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:49,119
that had to do with the air force or

1221
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:51,599
obfuscation or making excuses for the

1222
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:53,760
air force so let me just say that this

1223
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:57,599
is deb and lucy bell uh a study of ufos

1224
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:00,720
uaps so nathan we're gonna get to the

1225
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:03,599
question that deb wanted to uh

1226
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:05,760
ask you which was about stephen green

1227
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:07,760
street uh because i was not gonna

1228
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:09,680
represent your position

1229
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,920
uh on air because it's your it's

1230
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:13,680
something that you've come up with and i

1231
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:15,520
think people should hear

1232
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:17,760
come from your lips

1233
00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:19,839
but before before you do that uh i want

1234
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:21,920
to answer deb's question because deb

1235
00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:24,560
this question flows right into lucy bell

1236
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:27,520
so i'm looking at question number three

1237
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,359
oh yes and deb wanted me to talk about

1238
00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:31,440
the role of the air force in the nation

1239
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:33,920
nations defense i'm sorry and then

1240
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:35,680
question five

1241
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:38,160
where um

1242
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:40,480
lucy bell said because of 70 years of

1243
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:43,359
obfuscation what is so awful that they

1244
00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:45,599
can't tell us lucy bell

1245
00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:49,839
hi lucy all right so this is what's up

1246
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:51,839
the mission of the air force is

1247
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:54,079
different than the united states navy

1248
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,720
so when you present your service your

1249
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:58,000
service chief

1250
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:00,319
to the chairman of the joint chiefs of

1251
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:02,800
staff this the nca is the national

1252
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:04,800
command authority so you have you know

1253
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:07,119
the president secretary of defense you

1254
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:10,720
have the uh the joint chiefs so within

1255
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:12,560
that structure the air force's

1256
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:14,319
responsibilities different than the navy

1257
00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:17,119
the navy is to project sea power and air

1258
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:19,839
power and be able to park basically like

1259
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:21,920
an air

1260
00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:24,079
oh i'm hearing myself somebody's got me

1261
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:26,240
no where's me just keep going okay

1262
00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:27,599
okay i'm good

1263
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:29,680
okay so um

1264
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,440
so what it is is the air force is

1265
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:33,040
responsible

1266
00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:35,520
to provide so i don't agree with what

1267
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:36,960
they did so let me just start off with

1268
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:38,880
that i don't agree with lying and

1269
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:42,079
obfuscation i don't i i despise being

1270
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,640
lied to and when someone tries to piss

1271
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:46,640
right on my leg and tell me it's raining

1272
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:47,920
nathan will tell you there's nothing

1273
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:49,839
that pisses me off more than that when

1274
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:51,280
you're trying to bs me because that

1275
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:52,640
basically means you think you're smarter

1276
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:53,680
than me

1277
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:55,920
so um anyway

1278
00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:58,000
their job is basically to provide air

1279
00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:00,319
superiority and top cover over this

1280
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:02,559
entire 50 states

1281
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:03,440
and

1282
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:04,720
basically be able to say to the

1283
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:06,800
president we have control of these skies

1284
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:08,800
last time we didn't have control these

1285
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:12,079
guys were december 7th 1941 when we were

1286
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:14,720
attacked by the imperial japanese in

1287
00:48:19,829 --> 00:48:17,440
hawaii obviously everybody knows that

1288
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:19,839
and in the continental us i don't think

1289
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:21,520
it's ever happened in our history that

1290
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:23,920
we've faced a foreign power that's been

1291
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:26,640
able to fly sorties and attack us from

1292
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:28,720
the air so that's what the air force is

1293
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:31,119
those lightning bolts that you see on a

1294
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:34,079
general's wheel cap that he wears that's

1295
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:36,000
that's what that's all about

1296
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,760
so it was very difficult for the air

1297
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:39,839
force to be able to say

1298
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:42,559
hey um everybody this is what's going on

1299
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:44,640
there's a flying saucer that crashed in

1300
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:46,720
roswell and then there was another one

1301
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:47,839
and there was you know the one they had

1302
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:49,680
in michigan and there's these different

1303
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:52,559
crashes and you know what um

1304
00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:54,319
it's okay we can't really control them

1305
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:56,240
we can't take them out of the sky we

1306
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:57,839
can't shoot at them

1307
00:49:02,069 --> 00:48:59,520
we really can't stop them from doing

1308
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:02,079
whatever they want to do but don't worry

1309
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:05,440
because other than those guys we got it

1310
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:06,559
so

1311
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:08,960
that way nobody's smiling right now but

1312
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:11,119
that was meant to be comedic in nature

1313
00:49:15,510 --> 00:49:13,520
um so basically that was basically their

1314
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:15,520
reason is to be able to say to the

1315
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:17,680
president say to the country we have

1316
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,839
controlled the skies you're not seeing

1317
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:22,079
what you think you're seeing we've got

1318
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:24,160
all of this

1319
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:26,160
and nobody can penetrate our air

1320
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:29,119
defenses and our air power and so that's

1321
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:30,960
why that they i don't agree that they

1322
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:32,559
did it i don't think they should have

1323
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:35,440
done it i'm upset that they did it but

1324
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:37,599
that was the decision that was made so

1325
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:40,079
we can disagree but we can also say i

1326
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:41,280
and we're talking about being in the

1327
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:43,760
gray i understand why even though i

1328
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:46,160
disagree with it

1329
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:48,480
and and and that's what's so awful lucy

1330
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:50,480
is for them to be able to say

1331
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:52,480
we really don't have control the skies

1332
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:54,000
because these things can pretty much do

1333
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:55,119
whatever they want there's nothing we

1334
00:50:00,069 --> 00:49:56,960
can do about it

1335
00:50:01,589 --> 00:50:00,079
yeah so that's that's that question

1336
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:01,599
nathan you want to go on to see green

1337
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,119
street

1338
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:05,280
so let's we need to reset up some of

1339
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:06,880
that yeah i know

1340
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:09,200
i know i i know it's not it's not

1341
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:11,200
comfortable to talk about i'm you know

1342
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,920
everybody knows my background but that's

1343
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:15,520
that's the reason why they did it even

1344
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:17,920
if i disagree but more importantly i

1345
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:21,040
spoke this week um about i'm sorry

1346
00:50:23,829 --> 00:50:22,559
nathan did you want to jump in about

1347
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:23,839
that before i would go to stephen a

1348
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:24,800
little brief thing that i'll say i've

1349
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:27,119
simply to you about that

1350
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:29,440
take and that is uh you know i've got

1351
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,440
two two kids and you know they're as

1352
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:33,440
they're growing up i you know my wife

1353
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:34,880
and i make decisions on how to parent

1354
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:37,839
them based on how we who they are and

1355
00:50:42,470 --> 00:50:40,160
where they are in their development and

1356
00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:42,480
what we you know feel like we need to do

1357
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:44,880
for their development right and

1358
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:46,720
it's only going to be in hindsight you

1359
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:48,079
know when they're grown up and they're

1360
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:49,200
you know they're at the therapist's

1361
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:50,640
office for one issue or another that we

1362
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:51,920
go you know what maybe we messed up on

1363
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:54,000
that one thing there they made the wrong

1364
00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:56,079
call on that on that thing that we

1365
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:58,000
decided to do with them and i have a

1366
00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:00,400
feeling that something similar uh has

1367
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:02,160
occurred here with this topic and you've

1368
00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:04,640
got a government estate that is you know

1369
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:06,559
in the moment had to make a decision on

1370
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:08,480
something that they were probably pretty

1371
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:11,760
ill-equipped to to to do uh and then you

1372
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:13,359
know kind of balancing the fate of their

1373
00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:16,640
citizenry against this this subject that

1374
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:18,559
you know they had no experience with

1375
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:21,839
before uh and so they made a call and

1376
00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:23,599
you know maybe it was the wrong call and

1377
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:25,920
i think only time will really tell at

1378
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:27,680
the end of the day do we want the truth

1379
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:29,760
absolutely should we get the truth yes

1380
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:33,040
uh but uh you know i think i'd like to i

1381
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:34,960
like to think that people are you know

1382
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:37,040
try to do the right thing i i tend not

1383
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:38,400
to look at the

1384
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:40,079
at the government as some sort of big

1385
00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:42,000
bad you know that i that everything that

1386
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:43,520
they do has some sort of nefarious

1387
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:44,800
purpose because the government is full

1388
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:46,800
of people it's what people like dj full

1389
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:48,559
of people like you know your your

1390
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:51,040
neighbor you know you know these people

1391
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:52,559
you know and maybe collectively they

1392
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:54,559
make bad decisions but i'd like to think

1393
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:55,760
you know most of the time they make

1394
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:57,839
pretty good decisions and uh you know

1395
00:52:01,750 --> 00:51:59,200
it's only in hindsight that we can

1396
00:52:04,150 --> 00:52:01,760
really we just easily can judge you know

1397
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:04,160
whatever somebody decided to do and and

1398
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:05,760
it feels good in the moment but you know

1399
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:07,119
we weren't there we weren't there when

1400
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:08,720
they had to make that call

1401
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:10,880
i also would like to add and if chris

1402
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:12,160
wants to weigh in and this will get here

1403
00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:14,240
i would also like to add if you look at

1404
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:16,160
like for example like in the climate

1405
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:18,960
accords you know we have 150 countries

1406
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,599
that are that are agreeing on uh

1407
00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:23,520
the paris climate agreement so on and so

1408
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:25,760
forth but there's none of these

1409
00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:27,040
countries that are coming out and

1410
00:52:31,750 --> 00:52:29,599
talking about ufos and what they've seen

1411
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:31,760
and giving full and open reporting i

1412
00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:33,760
mean we could talk about the uk we could

1413
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:35,920
talk about australia we could talk about

1414
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:38,400
zimbabwe we could talk about portugal we

1415
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:40,160
could talk about spain we could talk

1416
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:42,319
about russia we could talk about any

1417
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:44,960
country that you want and nobody's come

1418
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:47,040
nobody's rushing out to explain to

1419
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:50,160
people uh what they've discovered uh as

1420
00:52:56,069 --> 00:52:53,599
as as a government so it's not i hate to

1421
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:56,079
say it the brazilians uh you know

1422
00:52:59,910 --> 00:52:57,839
similar thing it's not only our

1423
00:53:01,670 --> 00:52:59,920
government it's all the governments it's

1424
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:01,680
just that you know we're the ones that

1425
00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:04,000
have had the most uh i guess the most

1426
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,319
famous or most reportable topics but

1427
00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:08,640
nathan that was extremely well said

1428
00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:11,040
akashi chris

1429
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:15,670
nobody wants to be first nobody wants to

1430
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:17,599
own this problem from a disclosure

1431
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:19,760
perspective they're and they're looking

1432
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:21,359
for leadership and you know they're

1433
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:23,119
still i mean we are still in united

1434
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:25,280
states they're looking for us to set you

1435
00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:27,359
know they're waiting for us to do

1436
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:29,119
something so they can figure out what to

1437
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,160
do

1438
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:32,880
and so i think i think once the united

1439
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:35,280
states actually makes that you know once

1440
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:36,480
hopefully

1441
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:38,559
this office you know actually the bill

1442
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:40,240
passes where the amendment passes and

1443
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:42,400
everything gets processed but you know

1444
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:44,559
maybe this will be the beginning of that

1445
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:46,640
but i mean it is happening everywhere

1446
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:48,880
and it's funny because culturally a lot

1447
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,400
of the other countries are a lot more

1448
00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:52,880
open to talk about it you know like

1449
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:54,880
locally the people that live there are

1450
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:57,599
very open to talk about these things yet

1451
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:00,160
their government is waiting for hours

1452
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:03,599
who has like major stigma on the subject

1453
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:06,079
to take action so i you know that's part

1454
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:08,240
is kind of interesting but you know

1455
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:10,720
who wants to own this problem and and i

1456
00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:13,599
do want to circle back i'm not

1457
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:15,280
going to die very there's something you

1458
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:16,800
said earlier we were talking about what

1459
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:19,599
happens to this community you know after

1460
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:21,839
after disclosure or whatever well you

1461
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:23,839
know whose

1462
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:25,760
jobs will evolve

1463
00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:28,240
i in in our i mean think about where we

1464
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:30,079
are now from where we were when you

1465
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,800
forgot or when you guys first started

1466
00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:34,960
and how far down the rabbit hole you've

1467
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:37,599
gone and you know how your visions have

1468
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:40,799
evolved well you know so will ours and

1469
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:42,400
we'll be ahead of the game but there's

1470
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:43,760
going to be a lot of other people that

1471
00:54:48,309 --> 00:54:46,240
won't and even if it becomes mainstream

1472
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:48,319
they're going to need some help so i

1473
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:49,920
would think that that's where we can

1474
00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:50,960
support

1475
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:53,119
you know we can use this to community

1476
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:55,200
and not let it just disband just because

1477
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:57,119
we you know we got the answers no that's

1478
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:58,559
not the end that's the beginning of the

1479
00:55:01,829 --> 00:54:59,520
journey

1480
00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:07,190
this gets seriously next question

1481
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:09,270
you know could you offer go back i think

1482
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:11,040
it's a way to circle back because i

1483
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:12,240
think it's something that's really

1484
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:15,040
important and it just gets overlooked

1485
00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:16,960
yeah chris every question is just going

1486
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:18,960
to open another question because there's

1487
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,599
so much we don't know there i and i i'm

1488
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,760
i would guarantee if lou is sitting here

1489
00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:25,920
right now and he's the public person at

1490
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:27,920
least the public person who knows the

1491
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:30,240
most he would say there's still so much

1492
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:33,359
i don't know yeah i mean rick dodie said

1493
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:36,880
he was scared i mean i mean so

1494
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:37,920
i mean

1495
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:38,799
yeah

1496
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:41,280
he said i'm scared and that dude he said

1497
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:43,280
he's still scary

1498
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:45,760
okay he said i'm i saw things that

1499
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:47,920
scared me and he said what i don't scare

1500
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:50,880
easily right that's right i believe him

1501
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:52,640
okay all right i'm sorry i have a

1502
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:54,319
question from grant

1503
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:56,079
okay please grant

1504
00:55:59,829 --> 00:55:57,440
you

1505
00:56:02,789 --> 00:55:59,839
so am i gonna read this for reals is

1506
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:02,799
this are you tricking me here grant okay

1507
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,200
so he goes here's a question for dj in a

1508
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:07,440
post-9 11 world what are the rules of

1509
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:09,520
engagement for air force and navy pilots

1510
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:12,880
and encountering uaps

1511
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:14,640
um so

1512
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:19,040
this is uh this is a great question um

1513
00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:23,040
i can uh i'm gonna try to answer this uh

1514
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:28,230
okay

1515
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,599
what the what the guidance is that uh

1516
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:33,200
that i'm aware of

1517
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:35,760
is to use all

1518
00:56:40,870 --> 00:56:38,400
platforms of intelligence gathering

1519
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:40,880
methodology so that could be

1520
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:43,040
um if you're measuring uh

1521
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:45,200
electromagnetic

1522
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:48,799
signals so you know some forms of sigint

1523
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:50,000
if you will

1524
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:52,400
um optically using every sensor

1525
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:53,599
available

1526
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:56,960
um seeing what what radar signature uh

1527
00:57:03,270 --> 00:56:59,440
that that that they're getting

1528
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:03,280
and as well as uh viz obs obviously and

1529
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:05,760
then also your in your your ir our

1530
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:07,599
spectrum whether that be with night

1531
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:11,440
vision and to record because a lot of uh

1532
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:14,880
in in the older days uh we didn't record

1533
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:16,559
uh everything of course you know that

1534
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:19,680
they did on the back in 2004 but i mean

1535
00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:22,400
we've had night vision devices much

1536
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:24,720
longer than that i mean i flew with uh

1537
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:27,040
an aircraft that had a sensor ball on it

1538
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:28,079
from

1539
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:31,760
uh day one of uh my afsoc career and

1540
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:33,920
let's say july of o2

1541
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:35,680
and we weren't recording we didn't have

1542
00:57:39,910 --> 00:57:38,319
a way to record that stuff well now uh

1543
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:39,920
everything you know you can pop those

1544
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:42,079
hard drives out and just replay the

1545
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:43,359
entire mission

1546
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:46,319
so so yes i would say grant that right

1547
00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:47,680
now um

1548
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:49,119
it's collect

1549
00:57:56,309 --> 00:57:53,680
and analyze is what what i'm hearing

1550
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:56,319
yeah great question

1551
00:58:02,069 --> 00:57:59,280
collect collect collect

1552
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:02,079
by any means necessary for those of you

1553
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:03,680
from the 60s

1554
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:06,240
and in the uh civil rights movement yeah

1555
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,640
you know we're dealing with right no so

1556
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:10,640
i want to go to something really

1557
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:13,200
interesting chris um

1558
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:15,440
that um

1559
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:17,040
you know you you you look for these

1560
00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:19,760
moments when you're with your co-host

1561
00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:21,440
and you're having discussions that you

1562
00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:24,319
wish were recorded and some of those uh

1563
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:26,480
discussions take place uh on the

1564
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:29,040
telephone and some of those take place

1565
00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:32,640
after we shut the uh the recording down

1566
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,319
and nathan and i sit and talk for a

1567
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:36,400
while and one of them i asked him about

1568
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:39,119
the drama that was going on with stephen

1569
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:42,000
green street and i've had some some

1570
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:44,400
pretty healthy and lively debates with

1571
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:45,920
him online

1572
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:49,040
not in any way do i mean to

1573
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:51,839
demean him in any way or be derogatory

1574
00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:54,480
towards him um i respect the guy he's an

1575
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:56,079
accomplished person

1576
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:57,839
but when you

1577
00:59:01,990 --> 00:59:00,319
don't quite understand why somebody is

1578
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,000
acting the way they're acting then

1579
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:04,559
you'll look to somebody that might maybe

1580
00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:06,400
have a window into that

1581
00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:08,559
and what was interesting is that nathan

1582
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:10,799
opened a window into him that i didn't

1583
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:13,359
know existed

1584
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:16,720
and had some interesting analysis

1585
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:18,960
and not that he's trying to

1586
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:22,000
and say this is it but he's gonna he's

1587
00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:23,440
gonna provoke some thought in all of us

1588
00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:25,760
so nathan if you would what do you think

1589
00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:28,960
is the genesis of sort of uh

1590
00:59:36,309 --> 00:59:32,240
the unseenly way i guess that stephen

1591
00:59:37,589 --> 00:59:36,319
was acting uh on ufo twitter with

1592
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:37,599
several of us it was a little bit

1593
00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:39,520
perplexing and by the way we hope you

1594
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:41,599
return stephen because we'd love to

1595
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:43,599
engage with you either just there or

1596
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:44,880
wherever

1597
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:47,440
yeah for sure yeah i mean here's a guy

1598
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:49,839
who's done a lot of great work for this

1599
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:52,720
topic and i want to kind of shout out

1600
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:54,480
that first and then you know what he's

1601
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:56,079
done with the basement office what he's

1602
01:00:00,150 --> 00:59:58,240
done in his writing for the post and you

1603
01:00:02,069 --> 01:00:00,160
know helping to shine a spotlight on

1604
01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:02,079
this topic has been great and i think

1605
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:03,200
that's um

1606
01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:05,359
was really welcomed by the community and

1607
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:08,240
and his i personally really appreciated

1608
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:09,920
everything that he did uh for the

1609
01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:11,040
community

1610
01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:11,839
um

1611
01:00:17,349 --> 01:00:15,200
but you know similarly like

1612
01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:17,359
the way that he went about sort of kind

1613
01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:20,319
of wanting information or um you know

1614
01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:22,240
prodding people for facts that weren't

1615
01:00:25,510 --> 01:00:23,520
weren't there

1616
01:00:27,829 --> 01:00:25,520
um to me just sort of felt like you know

1617
01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:27,839
kind of full-on uh like he was kind of

1618
01:00:31,270 --> 01:00:29,839
just frustrated you know and i was

1619
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:31,280
trying to ask myself you know where is

1620
01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:34,720
this sort of frustration coming from

1621
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:36,559
uh you know because we all we we kind of

1622
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:37,920
share that frustration i mean i think a

1623
01:00:41,829 --> 01:00:39,760
lot of us do you know we want the truth

1624
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:41,839
what are the facts you know let's stop

1625
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:43,680
speculating show me some hard evidence

1626
01:00:47,270 --> 01:00:45,520
like we all want that moment where we

1627
01:00:49,510 --> 01:00:47,280
can be like look you know we can put it

1628
01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:49,520
up on the front page and and and nobody

1629
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:50,640
can look at that and be like yeah i

1630
01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:51,839
guess there's nothing there anymore you

1631
01:00:54,789 --> 01:00:53,359
know like like there is something you

1632
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:54,799
cannot avert your eyes from we're

1633
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:56,400
looking for that moment

1634
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:58,640
um but what i thought about it he

1635
01:01:01,990 --> 01:01:00,480
mentioned something um

1636
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:02,000
and i don't remember what interview that

1637
01:01:08,069 --> 01:01:05,280
it was but you know he talked about his

1638
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:08,079
his younger years and uh being a part of

1639
01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:10,720
uh the the mormon faith and you know

1640
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:12,160
being very involved with that and

1641
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:14,160
identify with that because i grew up in

1642
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:17,280
a very you know uh spiritual home

1643
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:19,920
uh and and very much was a you know a

1644
01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:21,599
strong christian believer you know in my

1645
01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:22,880
younger years

1646
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:24,559
uh but i got the sense from that

1647
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:26,240
interview from him that he

1648
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:27,760
you know he gave he got to this point in

1649
01:01:31,430 --> 01:01:29,200
his life where he became very

1650
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:31,440
disillusioned with with the church that

1651
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:34,000
he the beliefs that he was given uh that

1652
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:37,040
he walked away from those beliefs and

1653
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:39,280
uh that he felt in a way

1654
01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:40,960
and i can relate to this too kind of a

1655
01:01:44,309 --> 01:01:42,720
sense of betrayal you know a sense of

1656
01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:44,319
betrayed by

1657
01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:47,760
uh that uh that that family of believers

1658
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:49,599
that you know raised him to think about

1659
01:01:52,630 --> 01:01:51,119
the world in a certain way and when he

1660
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:52,640
when he came to this place in his own

1661
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:54,240
journey that said you know there's

1662
01:01:58,309 --> 01:01:56,640
nothing to this this is a bunch of

1663
01:01:59,910 --> 01:01:58,319
lies you can't really point me in a

1664
01:02:02,309 --> 01:01:59,920
direction where i can see some facts

1665
01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:02,319
about this about these stories

1666
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:04,480
you know the disillusionment and the

1667
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:06,480
frustration that accompanied that kind

1668
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:08,000
of fall

1669
01:02:11,190 --> 01:02:09,839
is something that stays with you forever

1670
01:02:12,789 --> 01:02:11,200
you know like it's not something you can

1671
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:12,799
just kind of write off

1672
01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:14,559
and so you know i i tend to think that

1673
01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:17,280
he he's bringing that similar

1674
01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:19,680
perspective to this topic that he wants

1675
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:22,319
to be he doesn't want to be let down he

1676
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:25,039
doesn't want to be uh duped you know he

1677
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:26,720
wants he doesn't want none of us want to

1678
01:02:28,470 --> 01:02:27,599
be

1679
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:28,480
you know

1680
01:02:31,990 --> 01:02:30,240
not able to to sit down when the music

1681
01:02:34,150 --> 01:02:32,000
stops you know we want to be able to

1682
01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:34,160
find that seat and feel a part of the

1683
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:36,240
group and i think that that's exactly

1684
01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:37,920
you know where he's coming from he he

1685
01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:40,799
wants to be confident that his time and

1686
01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:43,200
energy spent on this topic is time well

1687
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:45,440
spent that it's not going to be he won't

1688
01:02:48,789 --> 01:02:46,720
be let down

1689
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:48,799
and you spoke of rejection if i remember

1690
01:02:54,069 --> 01:02:50,720
correctly was that part of it or did i

1691
01:02:56,069 --> 01:02:54,079
imagine that a rejection of

1692
01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:56,079
an authority or

1693
01:03:00,150 --> 01:02:57,839
well yeah i mean that's it definitely is

1694
01:03:01,670 --> 01:03:00,160
a part of that i mean it's uh you know

1695
01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:01,680
if

1696
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:05,359
rejecting belief you know you're you're

1697
01:03:08,230 --> 01:03:06,799
pushing back against everything that

1698
01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:08,240
you've been taught

1699
01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:10,079
uh you know

1700
01:03:13,910 --> 01:03:11,760
it takes a strong person to do that

1701
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:13,920
first of all you know let's learn not

1702
01:03:17,670 --> 01:03:16,319
you know discount how much hard work it

1703
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:17,680
is to do that

1704
01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:20,640
uh to kind of break with the the molding

1705
01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:21,599
that you've

1706
01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:22,799
been given

1707
01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:24,880
um and so you know i think stephen's a

1708
01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:27,119
very strong person i think that he's uh

1709
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:29,359
he's really created his own he's he's

1710
01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:31,920
gone down his own path and a different

1711
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:34,240
path from those that that maybe are

1712
01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:36,000
those in his family or where he grew up

1713
01:03:39,670 --> 01:03:37,599
he's he's gone down a very different

1714
01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:39,680
path from those folks and that takes a

1715
01:03:43,829 --> 01:03:41,920
lot of work and um i applaud him for

1716
01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:43,839
that and and every day it's work you

1717
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:45,760
know because emotional investment

1718
01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:47,440
absolutely you know be a lot easier just

1719
01:03:51,910 --> 01:03:49,520
to kind of lapse back into that to those

1720
01:03:53,910 --> 01:03:51,920
beliefs uh that that structure is still

1721
01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:53,920
there the family's still there

1722
01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:55,680
all those things that he held dear are

1723
01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:57,280
still there he could just you know say

1724
01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:58,319
you know what actually believe that

1725
01:04:03,029 --> 01:04:00,160
stuff again the conformity of of

1726
01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:03,039
returning to lds and yeah

1727
01:04:07,829 --> 01:04:04,720
so you know but not doing that and every

1728
01:04:10,150 --> 01:04:07,839
day taking a stand you know against that

1729
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:10,160
is very difficult i don't think many

1730
01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:12,480
people necessarily realize how hard that

1731
01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:14,319
that is and again i'm you know i'm

1732
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:16,559
armchair psychoanalyzing him so i could

1733
01:04:21,910 --> 01:04:19,440
be completely wrong um but that's kind

1734
01:04:23,510 --> 01:04:21,920
of how i looked at his approach to this

1735
01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:23,520
topic that he just doesn't want to be

1736
01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:25,520
let down you know that and and i

1737
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:27,359
appreciate that i mean none of us do

1738
01:04:31,670 --> 01:04:28,720
right we don't want to be let down by

1739
01:04:32,710 --> 01:04:31,680
this and and and to date we are missing

1740
01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:32,720
some

1741
01:04:37,349 --> 01:04:36,000
really you know hang our hat on and

1742
01:04:40,150 --> 01:04:37,359
we're just waiting for that moment you

1743
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:40,160
know where's when is that gonna happen

1744
01:04:43,270 --> 01:04:41,680
a lot of us are tired of waiting for

1745
01:04:45,270 --> 01:04:43,280
that

1746
01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:45,280
i got the heart bubble emojis over my

1747
01:04:50,789 --> 01:04:47,520
head now after he's talking chris i got

1748
01:04:51,670 --> 01:04:50,799
the little heart bubble emojis yes

1749
01:04:55,029 --> 01:04:51,680
all right

1750
01:04:57,109 --> 01:04:55,039
so um i had another question here uh

1751
01:04:58,789 --> 01:04:57,119
that i'd like to first i'd like to get

1752
01:05:01,510 --> 01:04:58,799
chris's take on this

1753
01:05:04,549 --> 01:05:01,520
and then nft nathan who we're waiting

1754
01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:04,559
for chris to create nathan's nft but

1755
01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:06,079
it's gonna have to oh

1756
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:08,000
can you pick up the pipe please nathan

1757
01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:09,599
can you yeah

1758
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:10,880
can you please

1759
01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:15,670
hold that that's it

1760
01:05:18,309 --> 01:05:17,520
oh gotcha

1761
01:05:25,190 --> 01:05:18,319
all right

1762
01:05:26,950 --> 01:05:25,200
right so uh dna uh akashi

1763
01:05:29,589 --> 01:05:26,960
there's been a lot of talk about it i

1764
01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:29,599
think lou alluded to it perhaps in i

1765
01:05:32,950 --> 01:05:31,280
don't know if it was the kurt jo mongol

1766
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:32,960
interview so pardon me if someone else

1767
01:05:37,750 --> 01:05:33,920
has that

1768
01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:37,760
but how do are you a uh a theorist in

1769
01:05:43,910 --> 01:05:40,960
that maybe their dna has impacted our

1770
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:43,920
dna and that we're carrying it so i'd

1771
01:05:46,789 --> 01:05:45,839
like to ask you and then go to nft

1772
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:46,799
nathan

1773
01:05:50,069 --> 01:05:48,960
are you talking about the hybrid

1774
01:05:52,390 --> 01:05:50,079
uh

1775
01:05:54,390 --> 01:05:52,400
yeah i i think that's where that is i

1776
01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:54,400
mean i'm out of my depth here so i'm

1777
01:05:58,870 --> 01:05:57,440
hoping you guys can enlighten me yes

1778
01:06:00,390 --> 01:05:58,880
sure

1779
01:06:02,710 --> 01:06:00,400
well

1780
01:06:05,109 --> 01:06:02,720
i i'm very open to those ideas only

1781
01:06:07,029 --> 01:06:05,119
because it goes back to you know

1782
01:06:09,029 --> 01:06:07,039
you were talking about how i'm obsessed

1783
01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:09,039
with certain you know ancient structures

1784
01:06:16,630 --> 01:06:11,680
and angels like stations like for

1785
01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:26,230
i

1786
01:06:41,430 --> 01:06:38,559
we've seen a lot of structures that

1787
01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:41,440
don't make any sense a lot of you know

1788
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:44,799
a lot of places that the structures

1789
01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:46,720
there's no tech that could have existed

1790
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:49,280
at the time you know i i think you know

1791
01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:51,119
from an ancient civilization the reason

1792
01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:53,359
why this kind of comes into this

1793
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:55,440
conversation is because we don't know

1794
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:57,520
who was here before us

1795
01:07:01,510 --> 01:07:00,480
so we don't know what we

1796
01:07:02,390 --> 01:07:01,520
could have

1797
01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:02,400
been

1798
01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:05,039
mixed you know mixed with we don't know

1799
01:07:10,390 --> 01:07:08,000
you know we don't know if if

1800
01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:10,400
if really extraterrestrials or you know

1801
01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:13,119
grace are coming to you know to

1802
01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:15,680
try to get the what is it the grace or

1803
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:17,599
pro the war

1804
01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:20,880
what was that that story of the grace

1805
01:07:26,069 --> 01:07:23,920
i'm trying to think of is it the grace

1806
01:07:28,069 --> 01:07:26,079
when they're there they want things to

1807
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:28,079
happen because they wouldn't exist if

1808
01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:29,920
they don't happen but

1809
01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:31,119
you know

1810
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:33,280
there's another

1811
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:35,359
i'm all over the place on this because i

1812
01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:37,760
i'm not even sure i i'm totally caught

1813
01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:40,559
up into different versions of what you

1814
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:43,359
know what could we be mixed with are we

1815
01:07:47,829 --> 01:07:45,839
part reptilian are we you know that the

1816
01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:47,839
whole people have it right right if you

1817
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:50,480
go down you know on jolly round the hopi

1818
01:07:55,349 --> 01:07:53,039
indians had it right and the end people

1819
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:55,359
you know are part of this so yeah that

1820
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:57,920
the hopies believed in the whole ant

1821
01:08:02,710 --> 01:07:58,880
people

1822
01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:02,720
didn't know that i didn't know that no

1823
01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:05,760
check out the hopi indians that's uh

1824
01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:08,319
that was their thing wow i was a big fan

1825
01:08:12,470 --> 01:08:10,559
of adam ant uh

1826
01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:12,480
anyway so i can't i can't even answer

1827
01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:13,920
that question because there's so many

1828
01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:16,560
different ways of looking at you know at

1829
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:18,880
this and and i'm sorry if i

1830
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:22,080
botched it you know akash first time

1831
01:08:33,669 --> 01:08:32,229
december 3rd i believe december 3rd

1832
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:33,679
friday

1833
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:36,080
yoda so anyway sorry

1834
01:08:39,269 --> 01:08:38,560
nft nathan yeah um

1835
01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:39,279
i

1836
01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:45,920
uh

1837
01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:48,159
give me a little artistic license

1838
01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:50,480
nathan if i had to ask you if you had a

1839
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:52,560
gut feeling about this

1840
01:08:59,110 --> 01:08:56,319
when you look at these gray creatures

1841
01:09:01,669 --> 01:08:59,120
is that us

1842
01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:01,679
yeah hey mama

1843
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:03,279
are you going to come say hi to cox i

1844
01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:05,520
love the floating wine glass is awesome

1845
01:09:09,110 --> 01:09:07,679
i wish you yeah it's like

1846
01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:09,120
oh wow

1847
01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:10,640
horde wine glass

1848
01:09:13,749 --> 01:09:12,239
um she didn't feel she didn't want to

1849
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:13,759
say hello she's

1850
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:15,600
she'll get a shot yeah she's in her in

1851
01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:19,590
okay

1852
01:09:24,789 --> 01:09:22,640
this is to nathan and akashi chris

1853
01:09:27,669 --> 01:09:24,799
two of the uh people i love from ufo

1854
01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:27,679
twitter of a lot of y'all uh what's up

1855
01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:28,960
what's up man

1856
01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:30,480
well so to answer your question i think

1857
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:33,040
uh you know humans for the longest time

1858
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:35,679
we've had stories about this you know so

1859
01:09:39,110 --> 01:09:38,080
in i think most of our major mythologies

1860
01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:39,120
you know where

1861
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:41,120
we come from

1862
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:42,799
something that is non-human we are

1863
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:44,080
created by

1864
01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:48,480
you know there's some there's some sort

1865
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:50,239
of sense that this that you know we

1866
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:51,920
didn't just

1867
01:09:56,149 --> 01:09:54,000
uh you know appear like the other

1868
01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:56,159
creatures on the planet did or in the

1869
01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:58,000
same manner you know so that this is

1870
01:10:02,630 --> 01:10:00,880
part of our kind of storytelling and you

1871
01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:02,640
know there's there's a lot of truth to

1872
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:04,400
mythology you know i think mythology

1873
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:06,960
helps us navigate the world and and make

1874
01:10:10,229 --> 01:10:08,080
sense of the world that we find

1875
01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:10,239
ourselves in so you know my gut feeling

1876
01:10:13,189 --> 01:10:11,920
is that you know there is more to the

1877
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:13,199
story but

1878
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:14,800
you know this is also a topic that i

1879
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:17,440
think

1880
01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:19,280
you know it's it's so delicate right

1881
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:21,199
this is such a delicate subject you know

1882
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:23,120
we're talking about human beings and i

1883
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,360
think our friend lampe you know put it

1884
01:10:29,700 --> 01:10:27,840
really well and helped help frame that

1885
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:29,710
limpy

1886
01:10:33,910 --> 01:10:31,440
[Laughter]

1887
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:33,920
but you know her point i think is a is a

1888
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:35,440
really pertinent one that we really

1889
01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:38,320
cannot lose sight of

1890
01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:40,880
of human dignity you know so

1891
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:42,960
uh in the in all of our talk about you

1892
01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:45,600
know genetic manipulation or you know

1893
01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:47,360
who may be hybrid or who may not be

1894
01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:49,760
hybrid or whatever is going on here you

1895
01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:52,159
know we can't lose sight of our common

1896
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:54,480
dignity uh we can't get to a place where

1897
01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:57,360
we uh you know look at each other and

1898
01:11:01,110 --> 01:10:59,520
say well you're less of a human than i

1899
01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:01,120
am and therefore

1900
01:11:04,229 --> 01:11:02,640
whatever it is it's another way to

1901
01:11:06,709 --> 01:11:04,239
divide yeah i mean we've been down there

1902
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:06,719
that's horse yeah you know we we've

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01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:08,320
tried that we've tried that throughout

1904
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:10,080
history and it's and we still try it

1905
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:11,280
today there are people who would like to

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01:11:15,430 --> 01:11:13,440
divide us that way and you know i'm not

1907
01:11:17,590 --> 01:11:15,440
i'm not for that at all i think uh

1908
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:17,600
anytime we talk about this we have to be

1909
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:19,760
very sensitive to that subject but i

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01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:20,960
think at the end of the day we want the

1911
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:22,640
truth you know who are we really this is

1912
01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:24,560
these are the big questions who are we

1913
01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:26,640
how do we get here how do we you know

1914
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:28,320
come to be who we are why are we so

1915
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:30,000
different from everything else and and

1916
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:31,760
so demonstrably different from

1917
01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:33,840
everything else that is on the earth you

1918
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:35,520
know it's not like uh

1919
01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:36,400
um

1920
01:11:39,350 --> 01:11:37,600
you know there are a lot of other like

1921
01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:39,360
super sentient you know creatures that

1922
01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:41,360
that we share space with i mean we we

1923
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:42,080
have

1924
01:11:46,709 --> 01:11:44,000
an agree of intelligence that seemingly

1925
01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:46,719
is you know orders of magnitude greater

1926
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:48,960
than the next intelligent species that

1927
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:52,000
shares the space with us um so i don't

1928
01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:53,600
know you know it's i hope we get an

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01:11:59,270 --> 01:11:56,000
answer to that um i hope that

1930
01:12:01,830 --> 01:11:59,280
you know it's not an answer that um

1931
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:01,840
you know is too sort of destabilizing

1932
01:12:07,030 --> 01:12:04,320
existentially destabilizing i think we

1933
01:12:09,189 --> 01:12:07,040
need to we need to seriously begin uh

1934
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:09,199
considering it though uh as a

1935
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:11,600
possibility and we need to have a mature

1936
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:13,520
conversation about that so if it is

1937
01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:15,679
something that becomes a reality

1938
01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:17,600
that it that that is how you know we

1939
01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:19,760
came to be who we are i think those of

1940
01:12:24,470 --> 01:12:21,440
us in the community need to be able to

1941
01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:24,480
be thinking about this in a mature way

1942
01:12:28,390 --> 01:12:26,239
in an ethical way so that when that

1943
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:28,400
conversation happens we can you know

1944
01:12:32,229 --> 01:12:29,360
really

1945
01:12:34,470 --> 01:12:32,239
help people navigate you know through

1946
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:34,480
that challenging time right i mean it

1947
01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:36,400
because it will be destabilizing i mean

1948
01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:38,800
believe me

1949
01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:40,800
nathan was able to skate around that

1950
01:12:45,669 --> 01:12:43,840
like peggy fleming at the 1980 olympics

1951
01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:45,679
it was a beautiful routine

1952
01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:47,679
it was it was a beautiful pirouette i

1953
01:12:51,010 --> 01:12:48,960
love it

1954
01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:51,020
so i don't know no i i i

1955
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:52,800
[Laughter]

1956
01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:55,280
if if anybody doesn't like my humor

1957
01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:57,520
please say so in the chat

1958
01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:58,640
i'm probably still gonna do it but

1959
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:01,120
anyway they're all good i know like luis

1960
01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:03,760
jimenez i'm sure him hearing me try to

1961
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:06,000
be funny is like the way he feels when

1962
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:08,480
he has influenza you know like he's like

1963
01:13:12,310 --> 01:13:11,120
coughing i need hydration i just give me

1964
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:12,320
a heating pad

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01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:16,239
so anyway guys i love you louise

1966
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:19,520
anyway um but what i wanted to uh say to

1967
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:22,320
you nathan and i also am firmly in

1968
01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:25,040
rejection of the

1969
01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:27,920
uh the analogy of humans to ants

1970
01:13:31,510 --> 01:13:30,080
and i get very irritated even up to if

1971
01:13:34,149 --> 01:13:31,520
so if you guys want to see something

1972
01:13:36,550 --> 01:13:34,159
that i will i would argue with lou about

1973
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:36,560
um i would say to him no we're not like

1974
01:13:42,070 --> 01:13:39,840
ants and the reason uh and i don't think

1975
01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:42,080
that any intelligence that is looking at

1976
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:44,480
us right now thinks of us as ants for

1977
01:13:48,550 --> 01:13:46,560
the simple fact is we've created

1978
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:48,560
microchips

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01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:51,280
yeah you know we can engineer some

1980
01:13:56,950 --> 01:13:54,320
fairly exotic materials and metals

1981
01:14:00,229 --> 01:13:56,960
we can perform microsurgery the way that

1982
01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:00,239
we perform surgery now compared to let's

1983
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:02,239
say 80 years ago is absolutely

1984
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:03,280
incredible

1985
01:14:07,830 --> 01:14:05,040
joints that we didn't used to be able to

1986
01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:07,840
repair that we can um we can travel

1987
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:10,640
outside of our our solar system now

1988
01:14:16,630 --> 01:14:12,719
or at least produce a craft that can do

1989
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:16,640
so um so i i don't think we're in in no

1990
01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:18,560
matter what intelligence is coming here

1991
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:20,480
i still don't think we're ants because

1992
01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:23,040
we can actually express ourselves we can

1993
01:14:27,910 --> 01:14:25,040
have an experience with these beings and

1994
01:14:30,149 --> 01:14:27,920
many of our fellow humans can come back

1995
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:30,159
and talk about it yeah um that wouldn't

1996
01:14:35,830 --> 01:14:33,840
happen if it was a mastodon or a you

1997
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:35,840
know a sloth they're not going to be

1998
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:37,840
able to come and do like john keats and

1999
01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:39,360
write a poem about it

2000
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:40,719
so i mean

2001
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:42,640
you know that

2002
01:14:46,070 --> 01:14:45,040
unfortunately yes there are intelligence

2003
01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:46,080
that are

2004
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:49,280
thousands of years probably and maybe

2005
01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:51,840
nathan tens of thousands maybe millions

2006
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:54,640
of years ahead of us but we can still

2007
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:56,480
they still know how to communicate with

2008
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:57,360
us

2009
01:15:00,630 --> 01:14:59,120
and that we could actually write a book

2010
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:00,640
about

2011
01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:04,560
and unfortunately your

2012
01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:06,640
your fire ant that stings my foot here

2013
01:15:11,189 --> 01:15:08,960
in florida can't do that right are the

2014
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:11,199
ones that stunk chris in puerto rico

2015
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:14,080
we're going to get you fire ants

2016
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:16,159
sorry go ahead

2017
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:18,000
well it says something about us

2018
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:19,520
to me if we had the

2019
01:15:23,030 --> 01:15:21,440
ability like people are actually

2020
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:23,040
studying this now to like could we

2021
01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:24,719
communicate with whales right like if we

2022
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:26,320
could actually do that it would be cool

2023
01:15:29,510 --> 01:15:27,760
like we would want to do that we would

2024
01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:29,520
want to learn more about

2025
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:31,120
the creatures that are in our

2026
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:32,719
environment and be able to connect with

2027
01:15:36,310 --> 01:15:34,400
them on in ways that we really can't

2028
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:36,320
right now i mean and i grew up reading

2029
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:37,840
dr doolittle i thought was an awesome

2030
01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:39,120
story as a kid like that would be

2031
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:41,280
amazing if we could do that so if we're

2032
01:15:45,510 --> 01:15:43,120
encountering an intelligence that is

2033
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:45,520
going to write us off as not worthy of

2034
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:46,960
that kind of relationship when that

2035
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:48,400
relationship is something we actually

2036
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:49,199
could

2037
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:51,520
uh have i mean that's not an

2038
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:53,199
intelligence i actually want to be you

2039
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:54,880
know connected with i'd rather not you

2040
01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:57,199
know i i i'd be a little wary of them

2041
01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:59,920
quite frankly uh i i'm a believer that

2042
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:01,199
uh

2043
01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:03,280
that intelligence you know

2044
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:05,040
and this is a very anthropomorphic way

2045
01:16:08,709 --> 01:16:06,719
of looking at it i'll admit but you know

2046
01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:08,719
i'd like to believe that you know

2047
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:10,560
consciousness and intelligence as it as

2048
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:12,640
it aggregates upward you know becomes

2049
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:15,520
more curious more compassionate uh you

2050
01:16:19,990 --> 01:16:17,760
know more artistic you know just all the

2051
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:20,000
things that are the best of our

2052
01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:21,840
qualities that it becomes more and more

2053
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:22,800
of that

2054
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:23,840
um

2055
01:16:29,270 --> 01:16:26,080
you know what i what i worry about

2056
01:16:31,189 --> 01:16:29,280
in a lot of the accounts that we hear

2057
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:31,199
from people is that whatever they're

2058
01:16:36,709 --> 01:16:33,600
encountering sounds

2059
01:16:39,669 --> 01:16:36,719
not like that and more like a machine

2060
01:16:41,830 --> 01:16:39,679
yes and and and i would just say we've

2061
01:16:44,550 --> 01:16:41,840
heard a lot of talk recently about

2062
01:16:46,870 --> 01:16:44,560
future humans and and grays and you know

2063
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:46,880
warning against a catastrophe and you

2064
01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:48,480
know all i will put out there is what if

2065
01:16:53,350 --> 01:16:51,199
the catastrophe isn't isn't nuclear what

2066
01:16:55,350 --> 01:16:53,360
if the catastrophe isn't an asteroid

2067
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:55,360
what if the catastrophe you know isn't

2068
01:16:59,030 --> 01:16:57,600
some sort of pandemic what if it is is

2069
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:59,040
the singularity what if we are

2070
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:01,280
approaching a point in time where

2071
01:17:06,310 --> 01:17:03,440
the machines where our our connection to

2072
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:06,320
the machines become so powerful

2073
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:08,960
and and so intense and and it's a point

2074
01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:11,120
of no return for who we are as human

2075
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:14,320
beings and and we can undo that we can't

2076
01:17:19,030 --> 01:17:16,960
undo that transition and and think of

2077
01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:19,040
what we might lose by giving up

2078
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:21,280
ourselves to that to that point we talk

2079
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:23,120
a lot about the positives but what what

2080
01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:26,159
if we lose way more than we realize what

2081
01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:28,239
if in that journey

2082
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:30,960
of giving up ourselves to these machines

2083
01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:31,920
that

2084
01:17:36,550 --> 01:17:34,400
we we lose a core part of who we are and

2085
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:36,560
maybe these future humans who aren't

2086
01:17:39,430 --> 01:17:38,480
machines are trying to come back and say

2087
01:17:41,590 --> 01:17:39,440
look there

2088
01:17:44,470 --> 01:17:41,600
there's something important about being

2089
01:17:46,310 --> 01:17:44,480
human you know hey nathan can i can i

2090
01:17:48,390 --> 01:17:46,320
sum this up in one person's statement

2091
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:48,400
that you're aware of yeah remind the

2092
01:17:53,590 --> 01:17:50,719
audience of what the little girl from uh

2093
01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:53,600
zimbabwe said um yeah we are becoming

2094
01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:55,920
too technologed i think was the

2095
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:58,400
that sums up everything you just said

2096
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:00,960
beware they said no they said don't yeah

2097
01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:03,600
don't become too technology yeah and

2098
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:06,320
take care of your environment right so

2099
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:07,199
you know

2100
01:18:10,070 --> 01:18:08,880
the scariest thing i studied in

2101
01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:10,080
undergrad

2102
01:18:15,669 --> 01:18:12,960
was hanson robotics i believe his name

2103
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:15,679
is david hansen who's moved to hong kong

2104
01:18:20,229 --> 01:18:17,440
and is now without any sort of

2105
01:18:23,270 --> 01:18:20,239
regulation for uh the robots the

2106
01:18:25,270 --> 01:18:23,280
humanoid robots he's producing uh and

2107
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:25,280
cloud-based uh

2108
01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:28,080
uh information sharing etc uh and by the

2109
01:18:32,709 --> 01:18:30,480
way i'm sure every computer network that

2110
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:32,719
he's plugged into in hong kong the

2111
01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:36,400
chinese have every single byte of data

2112
01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:38,320
that he's putting uh out of his

2113
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:40,640
computers they're just looking at it in

2114
01:18:43,110 --> 01:18:42,239
a lab and go oh okay this is what he's

2115
01:18:45,510 --> 01:18:43,120
doing

2116
01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:45,520
um you know that nathan

2117
01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:48,800
and and uh boston dynamics i mean you if

2118
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:51,040
you start thinking about general ai

2119
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:51,840
uh

2120
01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:53,920
with a humanoid robot and then the the

2121
01:18:58,550 --> 01:18:57,199
super dynamic abilities of um

2122
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:58,560
of that and if you want to go the

2123
01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:00,719
science fiction route i mean the one

2124
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:02,880
some of the latest star wars i don't

2125
01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,159
know if it was rogue one it's the first

2126
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:06,480
time we've ever seen one of these

2127
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:09,199
uh robots actually hit a human before

2128
01:19:11,990 --> 01:19:11,120
that they they didn't uh they didn't do

2129
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:12,000
that

2130
01:19:17,189 --> 01:19:14,000
so it's um

2131
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:17,199
uh it's pretty scary and and i i agree

2132
01:19:22,870 --> 01:19:19,199
with what you're saying actually

2133
01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:22,880
akashi this was one of the first uh

2134
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:24,719
conversations i had with nathan where he

2135
01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:26,000
expressed

2136
01:19:29,950 --> 01:19:27,600
some

2137
01:19:33,430 --> 01:19:29,960
real questions about

2138
01:19:35,510 --> 01:19:33,440
intelligences and danger and that just

2139
01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:35,520
happened last week but let me get your

2140
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:36,960
thoughts because it sounds like you yeah

2141
01:19:41,669 --> 01:19:39,120
so yeah just i mean

2142
01:19:42,790 --> 01:19:41,679
going back to the ann's comment if we

2143
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:42,800
were

2144
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:45,360
so insignificant i think we wouldn't be

2145
01:19:49,750 --> 01:19:47,440
having this conversation today because

2146
01:19:52,870 --> 01:19:49,760
they've been coming here for a while so

2147
01:19:56,229 --> 01:19:52,880
we're still around so that's good

2148
01:20:02,950 --> 01:19:56,239
that's good i love it perfect

2149
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,350
i love this um

2150
01:20:09,350 --> 01:20:07,430
go ahead akashi i played because it was

2151
01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:09,360
actually okay

2152
01:20:16,149 --> 01:20:13,360
okay so um so we're we're still here

2153
01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:16,159
um our humanity

2154
01:20:23,030 --> 01:20:19,360
is valuable there's something that they

2155
01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:23,040
seem to seek that we still have

2156
01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:25,679
and if anybody's seen freaking

2157
01:20:31,590 --> 01:20:28,560
terminator we i mean every movie has

2158
01:20:33,910 --> 01:20:31,600
told us where this is gonna go if if we

2159
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:33,920
continue to hand over the decisions to

2160
01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:36,239
ai ai is going to figure out that we're

2161
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:38,800
stupid and it's going to take over

2162
01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:41,600
because that that is what ai is meant to

2163
01:20:45,510 --> 01:20:43,679
test the boundaries and figure out where

2164
01:20:47,189 --> 01:20:45,520
we're wrong and it's right that's what

2165
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:47,199
it's programmed to do

2166
01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:50,159
so we're it's it's very much a danger

2167
01:20:55,669 --> 01:20:51,920
zone you know when you talk about that

2168
01:20:56,790 --> 01:20:55,679
and i i don't i think i believe that

2169
01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:56,800
there's

2170
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:00,719
people that have had these experiences

2171
01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:03,040
that show that they're looking for

2172
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:05,280
something and yeah it looks like some of

2173
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:08,080
them are ai and but some of them are not

2174
01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:09,520
and maybe that's what they're trying to

2175
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:12,800
say we're dying you know our humanity is

2176
01:21:17,189 --> 01:21:15,199
gone and we need it back

2177
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:17,199
you know i don't know and no none of us

2178
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:19,440
have the answers so i mean all we can

2179
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:21,120
sit here is just

2180
01:21:24,870 --> 01:21:23,280
oh we're gonna we're gonna hit you up

2181
01:21:26,550 --> 01:21:24,880
we're gonna hit you up on anjali

2182
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:26,560
girlfriend because that's like that's a

2183
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:28,880
conversation maker i want to hear your

2184
01:21:33,030 --> 01:21:31,679
take on anjali my homegirl but before we

2185
01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:33,040
get to that

2186
01:21:37,990 --> 01:21:35,840
uh somebody wanted to ask it was uh

2187
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:38,000
michelangelo hi mike

2188
01:21:41,910 --> 01:21:40,320
um i don't know if he's related to jerry

2189
01:21:43,750 --> 01:21:41,920
and the phoenix suns and if and i can

2190
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:43,760
get courtside seats but that's beside

2191
01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:45,840
the point um

2192
01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:48,400
or president of usa basketball but uh

2193
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:49,360
nathan

2194
01:21:53,430 --> 01:21:52,560
[Laughter]

2195
01:21:55,830 --> 01:21:53,440
um

2196
01:21:58,550 --> 01:21:55,840
answers uh basically what mike want to

2197
01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:58,560
know is jack vallee and gary nolan

2198
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:00,960
uh and these guys have had their hands

2199
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:04,639
on material that they have gotten from

2200
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:07,199
vehicles that have crashed here

2201
01:22:10,709 --> 01:22:09,360
lou has spoken to that jacques villa has

2202
01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:10,719
spoken to that

2203
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:14,800
others i'm sure there are more that i

2204
01:22:18,550 --> 01:22:16,960
haven't thought of tom delong

2205
01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:18,560
and um

2206
01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:20,880
what he wants to know is

2207
01:22:25,270 --> 01:22:22,719
how many tests need to be done to

2208
01:22:27,669 --> 01:22:25,280
determine whether or not these metals

2209
01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:27,679
they've recovered are human or not

2210
01:22:31,750 --> 01:22:29,440
who are the scientists that they're

2211
01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:31,760
waiting to peer review this material

2212
01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:34,239
yeah and why haven't we gotten an answer

2213
01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:36,960
do you think that it's high time that

2214
01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:38,560
legends in our community like jacques

2215
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:41,520
fillet provide answers and and and

2216
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:44,480
publicly give us some conclusions as to

2217
01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:47,920
or if not at least some theories on uh

2218
01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:49,760
what this material is and where it came

2219
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:51,600
from maybe not where it came from but

2220
01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:53,840
the fact that of whether it's exotic

2221
01:22:58,550 --> 01:22:56,560
could have been made on earth uh or not

2222
01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:58,560
yeah i mean we need answers to that i

2223
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:00,000
i'm hurting to know there are people

2224
01:23:04,149 --> 01:23:02,080
looking at it but i think the longer it

2225
01:23:06,390 --> 01:23:04,159
goes before we the longer it takes to

2226
01:23:08,229 --> 01:23:06,400
get those answers the less

2227
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:08,239
likely we're gonna like the results is

2228
01:23:10,229 --> 01:23:09,520
what i think

2229
01:23:14,470 --> 01:23:10,239
so

2230
01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:14,480
to hold on to that information if if

2231
01:23:18,550 --> 01:23:17,360
it's not very interesting i think um

2232
01:23:19,990 --> 01:23:18,560
then again depending on who they're

2233
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:20,000
working with you know if they are

2234
01:23:23,510 --> 01:23:21,840
working with uh you know sort of people

2235
01:23:25,990 --> 01:23:23,520
who have a lot of influence

2236
01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:26,000
uh and particularly influence on on what

2237
01:23:30,070 --> 01:23:28,639
they want people to be aware of uh i

2238
01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:30,080
could see them you know keeping those

2239
01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:32,000
cards pretty close to the chest right

2240
01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:34,239
and not telling us what they really are

2241
01:23:38,709 --> 01:23:36,480
um you know i love squidding's take on

2242
01:23:41,270 --> 01:23:38,719
on the exotic materials uh subject i

2243
01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:41,280
wish i had a cocktail but uh you know

2244
01:23:45,590 --> 01:23:43,520
his and his take is that uh you got the

2245
01:23:47,910 --> 01:23:45,600
pipe

2246
01:23:49,189 --> 01:23:47,920
you know what

2247
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:49,199
every now and again we want some

2248
01:23:52,870 --> 01:23:51,280
affectations for no particular reason

2249
01:23:54,390 --> 01:23:52,880
yeah just every now and again yeah

2250
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:54,400
exactly yeah just what if these

2251
01:23:57,189 --> 01:23:56,080
materials are

2252
01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:57,199
like uh

2253
01:24:01,110 --> 01:23:59,679
you know sort of spaceship uh just poop

2254
01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:01,120
you know that you know he's like he

2255
01:24:04,870 --> 01:24:03,040
talks about this

2256
01:24:07,110 --> 01:24:04,880
this is space duty

2257
01:24:09,270 --> 01:24:07,120
yeah

2258
01:24:10,390 --> 01:24:09,280
you know it has no real meaning it's

2259
01:24:11,830 --> 01:24:10,400
just like

2260
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:11,840
you know the craft for whatever reason

2261
01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:13,840
it's almost uh like a living thing yes

2262
01:24:18,229 --> 01:24:16,800
perfect and uh and it just sheds some

2263
01:24:20,709 --> 01:24:18,239
material every once in a while and it

2264
01:24:22,310 --> 01:24:20,719
doesn't doesn't do anything or you know

2265
01:24:23,830 --> 01:24:22,320
you know that that's interesting theory

2266
01:24:25,990 --> 01:24:23,840
i think it's fun to think about

2267
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:26,000
i i actually thought of it

2268
01:24:29,270 --> 01:24:27,600
a different take on this as i was

2269
01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:29,280
getting out of the car for yoga and i

2270
01:24:32,390 --> 01:24:30,880
just messaged you

2271
01:24:34,149 --> 01:24:32,400
about akashi

2272
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:34,159
and and um

2273
01:24:38,629 --> 01:24:36,880
and i kind of thought of how i would

2274
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:38,639
answer this question

2275
01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:40,880
and i i took it all the way back to our

2276
01:24:47,189 --> 01:24:44,960
discussion uh several weeks ago about

2277
01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:47,199
when the government has material and

2278
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:49,199
they give it to a contractor and there's

2279
01:24:54,629 --> 01:24:52,080
a custodial exchange of material which

2280
01:24:57,189 --> 01:24:54,639
means i still own it

2281
01:24:59,430 --> 01:24:57,199
i'm giving you custodial responsibility

2282
01:25:00,629 --> 01:24:59,440
you can hold it you can use it you can

2283
01:25:03,350 --> 01:25:00,639
look at it

2284
01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:03,360
but i still own it and i set the terms

2285
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:05,040
of this of

2286
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:06,800
the extension and the return of this

2287
01:25:10,470 --> 01:25:08,800
material and then we talk about a

2288
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:10,480
transfer of ownership so we were talking

2289
01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:13,760
about a craft and if if an entire craft

2290
01:25:18,310 --> 01:25:16,400
would be given over to a private company

2291
01:25:20,229 --> 01:25:18,320
and i told you why i thought that that

2292
01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:20,239
wouldn't happen and gave you like 17

2293
01:25:24,070 --> 01:25:22,560
different reasons why not the least of

2294
01:25:26,629 --> 01:25:24,080
which is that

2295
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:26,639
scientists and and contractors of every

2296
01:25:31,750 --> 01:25:29,280
denomination will work at these test

2297
01:25:34,790 --> 01:25:31,760
sites for that express purpose so they

2298
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:34,800
can have uh they're hired to examine

2299
01:25:38,629 --> 01:25:37,199
materials and provide their expertise

2300
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:38,639
and their analysis

2301
01:25:42,310 --> 01:25:41,199
and uh at the conclusion of of that

2302
01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:42,320
research

2303
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,040
they're uh basically uh

2304
01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:47,040
contracts over thank you we're gonna

2305
01:25:51,030 --> 01:25:48,800
bring in somebody else

2306
01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:51,040
so with regard to exotic materials it's

2307
01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:52,480
quite possible

2308
01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:55,040
that whomever holds this material

2309
01:25:59,590 --> 01:25:57,280
obviously bob bigelow i think is one of

2310
01:26:01,590 --> 01:25:59,600
them and i don't know which lab that

2311
01:26:04,070 --> 01:26:01,600
jacques villa is is examining these

2312
01:26:06,870 --> 01:26:04,080
materials they may have custodial

2313
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:06,880
responsibility but not ownership so what

2314
01:26:11,110 --> 01:26:08,800
does that mean

2315
01:26:14,070 --> 01:26:11,120
it means that the government has given

2316
01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:14,080
them those materials to analyze but will

2317
01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:16,000
be able to control

2318
01:26:20,950 --> 01:26:18,320
the outcome and the narrative that comes

2319
01:26:22,870 --> 01:26:20,960
out of that scientific research and

2320
01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:22,880
their conclusions that they've come up

2321
01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:26,159
with so if i'm jock valet and i say

2322
01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:28,560
i've got two choices here i can either

2323
01:26:32,950 --> 01:26:30,719
never see this material

2324
01:26:35,030 --> 01:26:32,960
or i can see this material but i gotta

2325
01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:35,040
abide by what they tell me i can do with

2326
01:26:39,430 --> 01:26:37,280
the information that comes out of there

2327
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:39,440
when they're searching my little satchel

2328
01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:41,760
to make sure that there's no hard drives

2329
01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:44,239
leaving the facility and thumb drives

2330
01:26:49,910 --> 01:26:47,280
and and hard copies so

2331
01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:49,920
the only thing i can assume and this was

2332
01:26:53,270 --> 01:26:51,679
for um

2333
01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:53,280
michelangelo

2334
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:55,280
i'm gonna make an assumption

2335
01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:57,840
that these materials have been given

2336
01:27:02,950 --> 01:27:00,719
over to certain labs under a custodial

2337
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:02,960
relationship and not a transfer of

2338
01:27:08,709 --> 01:27:05,520
ownership whereby jacques valet could

2339
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,719
could call a press conference at

2340
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:10,639
lockheed or bigelow aerospace and say

2341
01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:13,440
well this is what this is our hypothesis

2342
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:15,040
at least is that

2343
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:16,960
by the way this material

2344
01:27:21,350 --> 01:27:19,360
we found it at a time when there was not

2345
01:27:24,070 --> 01:27:21,360
a metallurgist on earth that could

2346
01:27:27,189 --> 01:27:24,080
figure out how to make such a composite

2347
01:27:29,669 --> 01:27:27,199
with these materials and there are some

2348
01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:29,679
uh components of it and ores and

2349
01:27:35,750 --> 01:27:33,280
elements of it that uh maybe aren't even

2350
01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:35,760
uh present in this concentration on

2351
01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:37,679
planet earth whatever he would say and

2352
01:27:42,390 --> 01:27:39,920
i'm just throwing i'm just giving you a

2353
01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:42,400
scenario i believe that if there's a

2354
01:27:46,629 --> 01:27:44,480
custodial relationship they can prevent

2355
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:46,639
that press conference from happening

2356
01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:49,440
yeah and that makes a lot of sense to me

2357
01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:51,679
i just literally came up with that out

2358
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:53,520
of the car because i'm like

2359
01:27:56,070 --> 01:27:54,960
nathan's asking me what are we going to

2360
01:27:57,669 --> 01:27:56,080
talk about i'm like well we have all

2361
01:27:59,110 --> 01:27:57,679
these questions i'm like okay let me

2362
01:28:00,390 --> 01:27:59,120
grab one and see

2363
01:28:01,830 --> 01:28:00,400
what i can think of that's all i can

2364
01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:01,840
think of is they're not going to

2365
01:28:06,070 --> 01:28:04,560
necessarily allow him to say whatever if

2366
01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:06,080
he's been looking at that material

2367
01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:07,600
whatever they think it is and come out

2368
01:28:12,310 --> 01:28:10,080
and say hey guys we got a piece of metal

2369
01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:12,320
pretty damn sure it's not from this

2370
01:28:16,870 --> 01:28:15,040
planet and we didn't make it right and

2371
01:28:20,070 --> 01:28:16,880
and that may be exactly what that

2372
01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:20,080
material is based on what um geez uh

2373
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:23,040
jesse marcel and his son have said and

2374
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:25,920
uh jacques vallee have said and and even

2375
01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:29,440
luis elizondo and others yeah so what

2376
01:28:34,229 --> 01:28:32,080
else we got here guys uh

2377
01:28:36,390 --> 01:28:34,239
uh someone asked about barbara marsden

2378
01:28:40,149 --> 01:28:36,400
in the hybridizing theory i think both

2379
01:28:42,629 --> 01:28:40,159
of you have spoken to that um

2380
01:28:45,510 --> 01:28:42,639
beamed energy propulsion rodney wanted

2381
01:28:47,430 --> 01:28:45,520
to know about beamed energy propulsion

2382
01:28:49,430 --> 01:28:47,440
that chris mellon talked about and what

2383
01:28:51,430 --> 01:28:49,440
do we think about it so

2384
01:28:53,590 --> 01:28:51,440
uh if do you guys want to take a shot at

2385
01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:53,600
beamed energy propulsion i think it's

2386
01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:56,480
great okay yeah me too yeah that's

2387
01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:57,920
nathan because

2388
01:29:00,950 --> 01:28:58,960
i'm like

2389
01:29:03,110 --> 01:29:00,960
back to you nathan

2390
01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:03,120
it's you know who doesn't love being

2391
01:29:07,350 --> 01:29:05,840
energy propulsion um yeah it's a pretty

2392
01:29:08,950 --> 01:29:07,360
cool technology where they're going to

2393
01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:08,960
use uh

2394
01:29:13,990 --> 01:29:10,800
the rudimentary explanation is they're

2395
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:14,000
using lasers uh to point at objects that

2396
01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:16,880
are in space to energize

2397
01:29:20,149 --> 01:29:17,760
uh

2398
01:29:24,629 --> 01:29:20,159
like the surface of those objects and by

2399
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:24,639
doing that they can uh cause a small uh

2400
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:27,040
sort of changes in acceleration um and

2401
01:29:31,270 --> 01:29:29,280
so you know the thing about space which

2402
01:29:32,790 --> 01:29:31,280
is very cool is you can if as long as

2403
01:29:35,110 --> 01:29:32,800
you can just gradually increase the

2404
01:29:37,030 --> 01:29:35,120
speed uh eventually you're gonna get up

2405
01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:37,040
to some really incredible speeds in

2406
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:38,639
space uh so

2407
01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:40,400
you know to the extent that we could you

2408
01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:42,800
know shoot a laser a laser out at an

2409
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:44,960
object and and cause that to uh to

2410
01:29:49,030 --> 01:29:46,480
continue to accelerate we could really

2411
01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:49,040
get uh much faster speeds than we we've

2412
01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:50,480
achieved before

2413
01:29:54,470 --> 01:29:51,840
but it's you know it is very

2414
01:29:55,910 --> 01:29:54,480
experimental and uh you know it would be

2415
01:29:57,669 --> 01:29:55,920
challenging and you got to shoot lasers

2416
01:29:59,350 --> 01:29:57,679
in space which you know has its own

2417
01:30:02,870 --> 01:29:59,360
issues

2418
01:30:04,870 --> 01:30:02,880
yep i i think it's uh it as nathan said

2419
01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:04,880
it's fascinating i don't if you're

2420
01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:06,480
asking us if we think that's a

2421
01:30:11,430 --> 01:30:08,880
technology that can be used to fly the

2422
01:30:13,669 --> 01:30:11,440
various different craft that we've seen

2423
01:30:15,750 --> 01:30:13,679
um i i don't think that that's possible

2424
01:30:16,629 --> 01:30:15,760
at this point in time not at least not

2425
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:16,639
to

2426
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:23,440
lot of different dynamics there and it

2427
01:30:27,830 --> 01:30:25,920
is super comforting if we could say that

2428
01:30:28,629 --> 01:30:27,840
this is something that we could just you

2429
01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:28,639
know

2430
01:30:31,510 --> 01:30:30,400
execute this with technologies that

2431
01:30:33,669 --> 01:30:31,520
exist but

2432
01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:33,679
the evidence at this point says

2433
01:30:39,030 --> 01:30:36,000
otherwise but i hope that that the

2434
01:30:41,510 --> 01:30:39,040
evidence is going to say yes because i'm

2435
01:30:44,470 --> 01:30:41,520
very into not polluting

2436
01:30:46,870 --> 01:30:44,480
i'm very into um

2437
01:30:49,189 --> 01:30:46,880
if we could have a a technology that

2438
01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:49,199
could propulse uh aircraft through the

2439
01:30:54,229 --> 01:30:51,360
air without burning dinosaurs

2440
01:30:56,629 --> 01:30:54,239
uh and and and burning fuel and creating

2441
01:30:59,430 --> 01:30:56,639
uh carbon emissions that are getting the

2442
01:31:02,709 --> 01:30:59,440
atmosphere so i would love to see any

2443
01:31:05,350 --> 01:31:02,719
kind of a propulsive technology that uh

2444
01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:05,360
and right now what i'm seeing is uh that

2445
01:31:07,990 --> 01:31:06,400
we're not

2446
01:31:09,669 --> 01:31:08,000
we're fielding engines that burn

2447
01:31:10,709 --> 01:31:09,679
considerably cleaner so if you were to

2448
01:31:13,910 --> 01:31:10,719
look at

2449
01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:13,920
or even listen to a a new york mets game

2450
01:31:19,990 --> 01:31:16,719
back from the late 70s and you heard a

2451
01:31:21,750 --> 01:31:20,000
turbo jet engine and when i say turbojet

2452
01:31:23,910 --> 01:31:21,760
i'm i'm saying that you guys are looking

2453
01:31:26,709 --> 01:31:23,920
out at the wing and you're seeing one

2454
01:31:29,189 --> 01:31:26,719
entire cowling from front to back from

2455
01:31:31,430 --> 01:31:29,199
the inlet of the engine to the exhaust

2456
01:31:33,030 --> 01:31:31,440
you're seeing one smooth cowling and

2457
01:31:35,830 --> 01:31:33,040
that's what we would have called a turbo

2458
01:31:37,990 --> 01:31:35,840
jet now we have a turbo fan where you

2459
01:31:39,430 --> 01:31:38,000
guys are seeing this gigantic fan and

2460
01:31:41,910 --> 01:31:39,440
then there's a core

2461
01:31:43,590 --> 01:31:41,920
jet engine inside there and then you'll

2462
01:31:46,550 --> 01:31:43,600
have a couple of different stages of

2463
01:31:49,430 --> 01:31:46,560
turbine one of them turns that fan and

2464
01:31:52,390 --> 01:31:49,440
then the other one turns the actual uh

2465
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:52,400
compressor section of the jet jet engine

2466
01:31:57,510 --> 01:31:54,719
that you're seeing to suck the air in so

2467
01:31:59,830 --> 01:31:57,520
that's a technology that's much cleaner

2468
01:32:02,390 --> 01:31:59,840
and much quieter and you wouldn't hear

2469
01:32:04,310 --> 01:32:02,400
the deafening roar going over shea

2470
01:32:06,870 --> 01:32:04,320
stadium that you would have heard in the

2471
01:32:09,669 --> 01:32:06,880
days when the sst was flying and even

2472
01:32:12,550 --> 01:32:09,679
your typical 707 back then

2473
01:32:14,950 --> 01:32:12,560
or even in l-1011 or dc-10 so

2474
01:32:17,590 --> 01:32:14,960
technology's come uh

2475
01:32:20,470 --> 01:32:17,600
we're burning cleaner uh and we're using

2476
01:32:21,430 --> 01:32:20,480
less fuel now but

2477
01:32:23,350 --> 01:32:21,440
that

2478
01:32:25,910 --> 01:32:23,360
still basically they're using the very

2479
01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:25,920
same theorem that we flew on and flew

2480
01:32:31,030 --> 01:32:28,880
with in 1903 so

2481
01:32:34,229 --> 01:32:31,040
i have a question

2482
01:32:36,310 --> 01:32:34,239
in the chat no please chad so

2483
01:32:38,310 --> 01:32:36,320
hi we have a question in the chat

2484
01:32:39,990 --> 01:32:38,320
actually it says

2485
01:32:41,990 --> 01:32:40,000
this actually brings up a good point so

2486
01:32:43,510 --> 01:32:42,000
deborah was talking he was like uh they

2487
01:32:45,750 --> 01:32:43,520
were talking about the laser she goes

2488
01:32:48,149 --> 01:32:45,760
think uh think it will still work with

2489
01:32:50,790 --> 01:32:48,159
all the russian debris in the way i love

2490
01:32:53,350 --> 01:32:50,800
that point because this actually brings

2491
01:32:55,990 --> 01:32:53,360
up you know what other things you know

2492
01:32:57,430 --> 01:32:56,000
what insights do you guys have into

2493
01:32:59,350 --> 01:32:57,440
all this russian

2494
01:33:00,870 --> 01:32:59,360
mess that they've made up there in the

2495
01:33:03,669 --> 01:33:00,880
last couple of days i know this is

2496
01:33:07,030 --> 01:33:03,679
pretty new but you know any insights any

2497
01:33:09,350 --> 01:33:07,040
thoughts i love dj's take on that

2498
01:33:11,030 --> 01:33:09,360
um

2499
01:33:12,950 --> 01:33:11,040
so uh

2500
01:33:15,830 --> 01:33:12,960
all i can really tell you guys is that

2501
01:33:18,070 --> 01:33:15,840
there's uh let's just say a bit of a uh

2502
01:33:20,629 --> 01:33:18,080
a competition going on right now between

2503
01:33:22,870 --> 01:33:20,639
the united states china and russia

2504
01:33:24,149 --> 01:33:22,880
and um

2505
01:33:29,750 --> 01:33:24,159
it's uh

2506
01:33:30,790 --> 01:33:29,760
shift from where we were where 12 months

2507
01:33:32,470 --> 01:33:30,800
ago

2508
01:33:35,669 --> 01:33:32,480
and um

2509
01:33:37,430 --> 01:33:35,679
it's a very real problem and that space

2510
01:33:39,110 --> 01:33:37,440
that these uh that orbit that the

2511
01:33:41,990 --> 01:33:39,120
satellites are

2512
01:33:43,590 --> 01:33:42,000
um that are uh that particular distance

2513
01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:43,600
in space from the earth is becoming

2514
01:33:47,590 --> 01:33:45,600
extremely crowded like they were saying

2515
01:33:49,590 --> 01:33:47,600
that telescopes can't see

2516
01:33:53,590 --> 01:33:49,600
through through this band now their

2517
01:33:55,590 --> 01:33:53,600
space junk uh there are uh chinese

2518
01:33:57,830 --> 01:33:55,600
satellites and other satellites there

2519
01:33:59,510 --> 01:33:57,840
are ours as well that are defunct that

2520
01:34:01,830 --> 01:33:59,520
are floating in space that pose a

2521
01:34:04,149 --> 01:34:01,840
problem and the destruction of which

2522
01:34:06,790 --> 01:34:04,159
could cause uh the destruction of

2523
01:34:09,750 --> 01:34:06,800
another satellite as debris hits the

2524
01:34:11,430 --> 01:34:09,760
space station is is is somewhat in

2525
01:34:13,910 --> 01:34:11,440
jeopardy as well

2526
01:34:16,149 --> 01:34:13,920
and um it's not a good situation it's

2527
01:34:17,590 --> 01:34:16,159
why the space force exists

2528
01:34:19,030 --> 01:34:17,600
and um

2529
01:34:20,790 --> 01:34:19,040
it's uh

2530
01:34:23,430 --> 01:34:20,800
it's it's not something that makes me

2531
01:34:24,790 --> 01:34:23,440
feel good or that i i celebrate but at

2532
01:34:27,510 --> 01:34:24,800
the same time

2533
01:34:30,229 --> 01:34:27,520
uh when somebody enters a battle space

2534
01:34:33,830 --> 01:34:30,239
you also have to enter that battle space

2535
01:34:36,149 --> 01:34:33,840
whether you want to be there or not yeah

2536
01:34:37,750 --> 01:34:36,159
and space is uh you know it's it's

2537
01:34:39,510 --> 01:34:37,760
challenge has its own challenges unique

2538
01:34:40,870 --> 01:34:39,520
challenges right it's you know think of

2539
01:34:42,550 --> 01:34:40,880
it like uh

2540
01:34:44,830 --> 01:34:42,560
you know if you're familiar with uh

2541
01:34:47,510 --> 01:34:44,840
traffic in los angeles or new york these

2542
01:34:49,669 --> 01:34:47,520
big metropolitan areas you've got a lot

2543
01:34:50,870 --> 01:34:49,679
of vehicles that are on those uh

2544
01:34:52,470 --> 01:34:50,880
freeways

2545
01:34:53,910 --> 01:34:52,480
and

2546
01:34:55,270 --> 01:34:53,920
those cars are all trying to get a

2547
01:34:57,270 --> 01:34:55,280
certain place or trying to do a certain

2548
01:34:59,189 --> 01:34:57,280
thing some are trying to bring you goods

2549
01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:59,199
and services some are trying to get a

2550
01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:00,880
person from point a to point b you know

2551
01:35:04,629 --> 01:35:02,320
there's doing lots of different things

2552
01:35:06,790 --> 01:35:04,639
if one car has an accident

2553
01:35:09,109 --> 01:35:06,800
you know what what typically happens on

2554
01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:09,119
in in an already crowded

2555
01:35:12,310 --> 01:35:11,280
freeway well the whole thing gets

2556
01:35:14,950 --> 01:35:12,320
you know

2557
01:35:17,270 --> 01:35:14,960
impacted and this is this is why it's so

2558
01:35:20,070 --> 01:35:17,280
delicate right it's um

2559
01:35:21,669 --> 01:35:20,080
not only do we have humans out there on

2560
01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:21,679
the space station that we you know we

2561
01:35:27,030 --> 01:35:24,560
just think about the those people but uh

2562
01:35:29,750 --> 01:35:27,040
you know the world depends on space like

2563
01:35:32,390 --> 01:35:29,760
literally our economies are they're all

2564
01:35:34,709 --> 01:35:32,400
connected they're entwined uh

2565
01:35:36,070 --> 01:35:34,719
you know goods and services flow and and

2566
01:35:37,750 --> 01:35:36,080
so many things happen because of the

2567
01:35:39,109 --> 01:35:37,760
assets that are in space and that's not

2568
01:35:40,070 --> 01:35:39,119
just true for the united states it's

2569
01:35:42,550 --> 01:35:40,080
true for

2570
01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:42,560
all these major powers and so you know

2571
01:35:47,109 --> 01:35:44,960
to be able to uh you know with pinpoint

2572
01:35:49,590 --> 01:35:47,119
precision kind of take out a particular

2573
01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:49,600
asset there and not damage anything else

2574
01:35:53,189 --> 01:35:50,880
in the process

2575
01:35:55,270 --> 01:35:53,199
uh is a pretty powerful capability if in

2576
01:35:56,229 --> 01:35:55,280
fact you know they've reached a point

2577
01:35:58,310 --> 01:35:56,239
where they can do that this

2578
01:36:00,790 --> 01:35:58,320
demonstration tells me they're

2579
01:36:02,709 --> 01:36:00,800
they may not quite be able to

2580
01:36:05,590 --> 01:36:02,719
you know sort of surgically

2581
01:36:07,430 --> 01:36:05,600
uh you know sort of inhibit just one

2582
01:36:09,990 --> 01:36:07,440
asset you know we've created debris

2583
01:36:12,229 --> 01:36:10,000
field we've got a larger problem that

2584
01:36:14,790 --> 01:36:12,239
could impact not just uh you know your

2585
01:36:16,070 --> 01:36:14,800
adversary's assets but also your own you

2586
01:36:17,350 --> 01:36:16,080
know so you have to be pretty careful

2587
01:36:19,189 --> 01:36:17,360
with what you're

2588
01:36:21,109 --> 01:36:19,199
doing up there but it is i mean dj

2589
01:36:24,070 --> 01:36:21,119
you're right it's the next it is the

2590
01:36:26,229 --> 01:36:24,080
next battlefront

2591
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:26,239
i i want to frame it i want to frame it

2592
01:36:30,550 --> 01:36:28,560
this way so people understand that space

2593
01:36:33,109 --> 01:36:30,560
doesn't mean space

2594
01:36:35,270 --> 01:36:33,119
but if let's say for example that we

2595
01:36:38,310 --> 01:36:35,280
received an intel report

2596
01:36:41,109 --> 01:36:38,320
that uh that people were and i'm gonna

2597
01:36:43,590 --> 01:36:41,119
this is gonna be a fantastic example so

2598
01:36:45,430 --> 01:36:43,600
think phantasm think journey the center

2599
01:36:48,790 --> 01:36:45,440
of the earth type stuff

2600
01:36:52,229 --> 01:36:48,800
let's say that people were digging holes

2601
01:36:54,790 --> 01:36:52,239
in um so we're just gonna say country x

2602
01:36:57,510 --> 01:36:54,800
that exists right on the edge of of

2603
01:36:58,709 --> 01:36:57,520
africa on the the western coast

2604
01:37:00,790 --> 01:36:58,719
and they were digging they were going to

2605
01:37:02,870 --> 01:37:00,800
dig right across

2606
01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:02,880
right and they're under the ocean and

2607
01:37:07,990 --> 01:37:04,000
all of a sudden

2608
01:37:10,149 --> 01:37:08,000
you know you you have sonar uh uh uh

2609
01:37:11,990 --> 01:37:10,159
amphibious vehicles that can see that

2610
01:37:13,750 --> 01:37:12,000
they're actually digging and tunneling

2611
01:37:15,109 --> 01:37:13,760
under the ocean and when they come up

2612
01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:15,119
they're gonna be right smack in the

2613
01:37:19,189 --> 01:37:16,719
middle of brazil

2614
01:37:20,629 --> 01:37:19,199
the brazilians are going to say

2615
01:37:24,070 --> 01:37:20,639
they're doing this

2616
01:37:26,070 --> 01:37:24,080
we now need to tunnel under

2617
01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:26,080
under the ocean and this has now become

2618
01:37:30,550 --> 01:37:27,360
a battle space

2619
01:37:32,870 --> 01:37:30,560
or not

2620
01:37:34,709 --> 01:37:32,880
it's existential now they are tunneling

2621
01:37:36,470 --> 01:37:34,719
under and when they pop up they're going

2622
01:37:38,229 --> 01:37:36,480
to be in miniature ice and their their

2623
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:38,239
troops are just going to come pouring

2624
01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:40,800
out and take over miniaturize so

2625
01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:42,400
that's that's an example of what i'm

2626
01:37:47,750 --> 01:37:45,040
talking about is that when somebody

2627
01:37:49,510 --> 01:37:47,760
enters into a new area whether that be

2628
01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:49,520
underground whether that be overground

2629
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:52,080
whether that be in space wherever it's

2630
01:37:55,750 --> 01:37:54,400
like you walking to a parking lot and

2631
01:37:57,350 --> 01:37:55,760
you're with your family and you're after

2632
01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:57,360
dinner and somebody comes up and

2633
01:38:00,310 --> 01:37:59,040
approaches you

2634
01:38:01,830 --> 01:38:00,320
and they say you know what i want to

2635
01:38:03,669 --> 01:38:01,840
fight you and you're right standing with

2636
01:38:05,189 --> 01:38:03,679
your family we're going to have a fight

2637
01:38:06,310 --> 01:38:05,199
now there's not a question of whether or

2638
01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:06,320
not we're going to fight we're going to

2639
01:38:09,910 --> 01:38:08,719
have a fight who's going to win that's

2640
01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:09,920
the question

2641
01:38:13,189 --> 01:38:11,760
but there is going to be a fight so

2642
01:38:15,030 --> 01:38:13,199
anyway

2643
01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:15,040
that's enough of that stuff let's get

2644
01:38:18,629 --> 01:38:16,560
back to having some fun because it's

2645
01:38:21,270 --> 01:38:18,639
about time to shut this down because one

2646
01:38:23,990 --> 01:38:21,280
of the things we try to do here is

2647
01:38:25,750 --> 01:38:24,000
always leave you one mo mm-hmm you want

2648
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:25,760
more akashi chris you're going to get

2649
01:38:30,390 --> 01:38:28,480
her december 3rd you'd want grant levac

2650
01:38:32,550 --> 01:38:30,400
you want to bring some yoga business up

2651
01:38:34,550 --> 01:38:32,560
in here and have some jedi stuff going

2652
01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:34,560
down and a hood in the whole nine

2653
01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:36,960
there's lightsaber and and chris is

2654
01:38:40,709 --> 01:38:38,159
there she's gonna have the one that's

2655
01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:40,719
got the red on both sides

2656
01:38:44,790 --> 01:38:42,239
you know

2657
01:38:46,229 --> 01:38:44,800
no that's the bad guys that's fine

2658
01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:46,239
you're going to battle grant what do you

2659
01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:48,960
care let's not get picky here is red a

2660
01:38:54,390 --> 01:38:52,080
problem oh give me green

2661
01:38:55,990 --> 01:38:54,400
it's not i'm kidding it's not a battle

2662
01:38:59,109 --> 01:38:56,000
it's going to be good

2663
01:39:01,510 --> 01:38:59,119
nathan my brother this was so much fun

2664
01:39:02,310 --> 01:39:01,520
having a one-on-one conversation enjoyed

2665
01:39:03,430 --> 01:39:02,320
it

2666
01:39:05,270 --> 01:39:03,440
i thought we were going to fight and

2667
01:39:07,109 --> 01:39:05,280
stuff but that's why we didn't

2668
01:39:09,189 --> 01:39:07,119
yeah guys get along really well i'm

2669
01:39:13,750 --> 01:39:09,199
really proud of you yeah we love each

2670
01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:13,760
other we're gonna do man you know um and

2671
01:39:18,550 --> 01:39:17,040
um akashi chris so you're gonna join us

2672
01:39:19,510 --> 01:39:18,560
on the third we're gonna have some

2673
01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:19,520
laughs

2674
01:39:22,709 --> 01:39:20,960
we're gonna have some we're gonna have

2675
01:39:25,109 --> 01:39:22,719
some drinks so i don't think this is

2676
01:39:26,390 --> 01:39:25,119
gonna be a sober episode no okay not

2677
01:39:28,950 --> 01:39:26,400
gonna happen

2678
01:39:31,590 --> 01:39:28,960
and then i don't i don't drink but

2679
01:39:33,830 --> 01:39:31,600
you know yeah yeah i have a five hour

2680
01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:33,840
energy and you just can't stop me from

2681
01:39:36,709 --> 01:39:35,920
maybe six maybe six

2682
01:39:39,350 --> 01:39:36,719
um

2683
01:39:41,030 --> 01:39:39,360
and you know something else hi grant we

2684
01:39:43,510 --> 01:39:41,040
can't wait to we can't wait to see it

2685
01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:43,520
brother what's up mate yes um i got to

2686
01:39:47,510 --> 01:39:45,760
tell you this so grant after we deal

2687
01:39:48,870 --> 01:39:47,520
with you and akashi chris which ain't

2688
01:39:50,310 --> 01:39:48,880
gonna be easy

2689
01:39:52,070 --> 01:39:50,320
he's a handful

2690
01:39:53,430 --> 01:39:52,080
he's carrying all those groceries up to

2691
01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:53,440
the fourth floor

2692
01:39:58,470 --> 01:39:55,119
nathan and i are going to be on with

2693
01:40:00,629 --> 01:39:58,480
alien girl on sunday yes and i'm gonna

2694
01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:00,639
have to do this tomorrow but i'm saying

2695
01:40:05,730 --> 01:40:03,440
alien girl

2696
01:40:07,030 --> 01:40:05,740
and girl any girl

2697
01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:07,040
[Applause]

2698
01:40:12,950 --> 01:40:09,360
i swear i'm on chat and she pops up and

2699
01:40:14,310 --> 01:40:12,960
i'm like alien girl as i'm typing it

2700
01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:14,320
i can't help it

2701
01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:16,960
i'm gonna be i'm gonna do some alien

2702
01:40:21,669 --> 01:40:19,360
girl stuff but i got i promised her to

2703
01:40:24,070 --> 01:40:21,679
do it on twitter so i'm gonna do it i'm

2704
01:40:25,510 --> 01:40:24,080
gonna do it for her like i did today so

2705
01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:25,520
we're gonna be on with the alien girl

2706
01:40:29,990 --> 01:40:28,239
sunday uh sunday night if i don't go to

2707
01:40:32,390 --> 01:40:30,000
the hospital on saturday after being at

2708
01:40:34,229 --> 01:40:32,400
the racetrack hey egg uh who's that

2709
01:40:36,709 --> 01:40:34,239
stephen griez flair

2710
01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:36,719
deborah alexander what's up home girl

2711
01:40:42,070 --> 01:40:38,080
one love

2712
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:42,080
stephen greer grant epic i love alien

2713
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:43,199
girl

2714
01:40:47,350 --> 01:40:45,520
my new crush yeah

2715
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:47,360
um and um

2716
01:40:51,109 --> 01:40:49,440
oh my gosh but yeah we're going to do

2717
01:40:52,709 --> 01:40:51,119
that so if i don't end up in the

2718
01:40:54,709 --> 01:40:52,719
hospital from being at the track

2719
01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:54,719
saturday i will see you sunday there

2720
01:40:58,070 --> 01:40:56,639
nathan yes it's fantastic look forward

2721
01:40:59,350 --> 01:40:58,080
to it buddy what you want to say about

2722
01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:59,360
mataloni

2723
01:41:05,109 --> 01:41:01,280
come on man what can't i say about

2724
01:41:05,910 --> 01:41:05,119
madaloni bring me the data we need

2725
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:05,920
more

2726
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:07,119
data

2727
01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:09,040
bring it

2728
01:41:12,149 --> 01:41:10,480
we're going to get a heaping platter of

2729
01:41:13,990 --> 01:41:12,159
it with him

2730
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:14,000
bladder of data

2731
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:15,280
data

2732
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:18,400
um there's no evidence uh right now at

2733
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:20,800
all that i'm not cgi

2734
01:41:24,790 --> 01:41:22,719
that's true none i mean i've never met

2735
01:41:26,390 --> 01:41:24,800
your person you could be yeah

2736
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:26,400
and i want to thank you nathan for

2737
01:41:28,709 --> 01:41:28,000
creating me that's why i'm so nice to

2738
01:41:30,390 --> 01:41:28,719
you

2739
01:41:36,850 --> 01:41:30,400
and

2740
01:41:45,109 --> 01:41:42,310
[Laughter]

2741
01:41:47,270 --> 01:41:45,119
we want you to like and subscribe to our

2742
01:41:49,109 --> 01:41:47,280
youtube or whatever instead of reminding

2743
01:41:50,550 --> 01:41:49,119
me so when you know what kind of idiocy

2744
01:41:52,470 --> 01:41:50,560
is going to be coming down you can jump

2745
01:41:53,990 --> 01:41:52,480
onto it and by the way we do this

2746
01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:54,000
because

2747
01:41:57,189 --> 01:41:54,880
really

2748
01:41:58,950 --> 01:41:57,199
we'll bring you some guests on here who

2749
01:42:01,030 --> 01:41:58,960
have some gravity in the community so

2750
01:42:02,390 --> 01:42:01,040
that we can bring attention to people

2751
01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:02,400
that aren't as well known but are

2752
01:42:07,510 --> 01:42:04,480
brilliant one of those people might be

2753
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:07,520
akashi chris might be lampy maybe it'll

2754
01:42:11,990 --> 01:42:09,760
be divine daisy girl if we can get her

2755
01:42:13,669 --> 01:42:12,000
boss to leave her listen to this girl

2756
01:42:16,310 --> 01:42:13,679
what's going on man

2757
01:42:17,830 --> 01:42:16,320
have somebody she gonna sue your ass

2758
01:42:21,750 --> 01:42:17,840
so

2759
01:42:23,510 --> 01:42:21,760
come one come on we want to bring

2760
01:42:25,669 --> 01:42:23,520
attention to people that necessarily

2761
01:42:27,830 --> 01:42:25,679
don't get it but uh have brought

2762
01:42:30,070 --> 01:42:27,840
positivity in this space you would and

2763
01:42:32,629 --> 01:42:30,080
you got some opinions like this girl

2764
01:42:34,790 --> 01:42:32,639
right here akashi

2765
01:42:37,350 --> 01:42:34,800
got a penny got you chris

2766
01:42:39,750 --> 01:42:37,360
got opinions

2767
01:42:46,870 --> 01:42:39,760
and she's got a great blurry

2768
01:42:53,430 --> 01:42:49,910
what's up homegirl los angeles oh

2769
01:42:58,229 --> 01:42:55,590
so thank you very much valley girl for

2770
01:42:59,990 --> 01:42:58,239
joining us there and um i'll tell you

2771
01:43:01,030 --> 01:43:00,000
what we're going to see you

2772
01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:01,040
the next time we're going to see these

2773
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:04,960
guys 19th right this friday yes michael

2774
01:43:09,669 --> 01:43:07,920
mcelooney singularity apparently he

2775
01:43:11,030 --> 01:43:09,679
wants me to not be married anymore and

2776
01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:11,040
that's what singularity means we're

2777
01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:12,800
going to find out all about it

2778
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:19,189
bring me the data i want to put my hand

2779
01:43:23,350 --> 01:43:21,570
on the senator's desk and go

2780
01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:23,360
[Music]

2781
01:43:28,229 --> 01:43:25,760
all there love you guys all right all

2782
01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:28,239
right all right

2783
01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:30,880
for for nathan for akashi chris this is

2784
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:33,280
dj saying peace out

2785
01:43:37,030 --> 01:43:34,480
one

2786
01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:37,040
love and we'll see you down the road

2787
01:43:40,229 --> 01:43:38,639
because nathan and i are always

2788
01:43:42,930 --> 01:43:40,239
wondering what's up around the bend